[Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility

Sat Nov 8 07:59:30 UTC 2008

Beth,
Thanks for the compliment/comment on the tags.  I am glad they are used by God to encourage you.

On my ride with my pastor, he talked about how the art of true discipleship is lost in the majority of American Christian churches.  I can see what he means.  The pastors today aren't acting like a disciple who comes alongside his flock and teaches and encourages as much as they are the CEO of a company.  The CEO analogy is mine, not my pastor's.

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   There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God. 
 1 Samuel 2:2
~~~

Alan D Wheeler
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth Kats" <bethkats at cox.net>
To: "'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility

> Allen,
> I like the Bible verses at the end of your messages!  The passage in Romans,
> "There is therefore no concemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.  That
> is inspiring!  I like John 3-16.  I hope that the false accusations can stop
> and we can be good Christian examples to each other on this list.
> Beth
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Alan Wheeler
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 10:30 AM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility
> 
> What is the point of this message?  I don't remember anyone being run off
> this list.  I also wouldn't call the Christians on this list "bible
> thumpers" as that is an unfair and biased generalization.
> 
> 
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> 
>   There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus,
> who don't walk according to the flesh,  
> but according to the Spirit. Romans 8:1
> ~~~
> 
> Alan D Wheeler
> awheeler at neb.rr.com
> IM me at: outlaw-cowboy at live.com
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Julie C. Vogt" <jcvogt at pressenter.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 9:58 AM
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Here's a Possibility
> 
> 
>> People do not agree but because they do not agree doesn't make them
> totally wrong.
>> 
>> As I understand it, the Communities of Faith was supposed to be a forum
> for people of all religions.  But what happened when that lady first was on
> this list who confessed to being a Catholic lesbian?  Everybody that thought
> they are James Dobson's secret identity ran her off this list and not in
> charge of it.
>> 
>> How do you think Jesus is going to settle people's hearts when we get to
> heaven "in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye?
>> 
>> The voters have spoken.  In this country it is time for a change.  When
> the African-American Gospel stations play, "A Change is Gonna Come" by Sam
> Cook like it was the latest Gospel song, that ought to tell people
> something.
>> 
>> A lot of e-mail I got was down-right phobic racism and there's no two ways
> of looking at that.  Obama thanked McCane for a good fight and for being
> gracious in his acceptance speech.
>> 
>> But here on this list, I find everybody has their own select Bible reading
> and that is it.  You know where I was reading this morning?  2 Kings 6 where
> there was a famine in the land of Israel.  The Prophet of God said basically
> that within the next 24 hours, there would be low prices on badly needed
> food, just to paraphrase.  It made me thinkof Rev. where it says very
> plainly that "The fearful and unbelieving God will judge."  Perfect love
> casts out all fear also is another Scripture.
>> 
>> Some one in the crowd of Israelites didn't believe the prophecy and
>> the Prophet of God that the unbeliever would see it with his own eyes, but
> would not be a part of it.  That man was trampled to death.
>> 
>> Phobia isn't going to get you anywhere these next four years, and neither
> is being a sore loser.  People who were leaders in the Democrat party that
> had their phone conversations illegally listened in on in the past four
> years at least learned that much.
>> 
>> Maybe now we will have some dialog that isn't just 100% "my way or the
> highway Bible thumping.  Zero tolerance didn't win the election for you
> because your lack of love and a few other things were showing.  Learn from
> it.
>> 
>> 
>> "Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a human
> soul," American Humorist Mark Twain
>> 
>> "An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us," Dr. Kenneth Jernigan,
> Immediate Past President, National Federation of the Blind
>> 
>> "A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city: and their
> contentions are like the bars of a castle." Proverbs 18 19. KJV
>> 
>> "Faith is the ability to see God in the dark.," (unknown)
>> 
>> "No one can do it for us but us," Rev. Jesse Jackson, Operation Push,
> 1976.
>> 
>> "With proper training, development, and opportunity, blindness can be
> reduced to the level of a physical nuisance or characteristic," the Late Dr.
> Kenneth Jernigan, Past President, National Federation of the Blind.
>> 
>> Julie Vogt or jcvogt at pressenter.com 
>> 
>> 
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