[Faith-talk] False Accusations

Sun Nov 9 14:52:01 UTC 2008

Beth,
I gently disagree with you.  Marriage was designed by God to be between a man and a woman.  Don't take issue because I said it.  Study the Bible and if you still don't like it, then you have to take it up with God.  It was His idea to begin with, not man's.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations

>I don't care if Obama's half-black.  God's people will come to
> understand a few things:
> 1. Marriage, for example, is not between "one man and one woman".  It
> is between two able parties, same o different sex, that are actually
> willing to stay together.  Our high divorce rate of heterosexual
> couples mostly is bad for our children herein America.
> 2. Abortion should never happen.  If it's something that has to do
> with the mother's life and health, then that's the only exception.
> But rape and birth control reasons are not good ones.
> 3. Blind people can and wwill have equal rights to vote, gain security
> benefits, and so on.  Yes, Obama's the most liberal, but we need him.
> Maybe he's a lot more Christian than Bush was.  But God's people must
> not be against him.  I'm a Catholic, and I'm also a liberal as well.
> Obama has also beat Kennedy by so many years.  ANything having to do
> with race is out as far as I'm concerned.  Next, what will happen when
> a woman is in the White House?  What about a blind woman? lol
> Beth
> 
> On 11/8/08, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>>
>> I'm sorry, too.  I'm not against our president elect because he's
>> black.  Fact is, he's half black.  That's neither here nor
>> there.  It's mainly because he's the most liberal of all in Congress,
>> and I believe that a lot of our rights will be taken away once he is
>> sworn in.  We'll see what happens, but I'm praying for him, and all
>> the rest in authority over us.  I sent those things to you because I
>> knew you wouldn't find out from the mainstream media.  But the
>> election has made history, and God's people need to be more vigilent than
>> ever.
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> At 03:33 PM 11/8/2008, you wrote:
>>>It happened by accident.  When you didn't stop attacking in my
>>>in-box--those of you who did it--people of other races by way of our
>>>new President-elect, I wrote what I wrote.  Now you know how false
>>>accusations hurt everybody.  Because of one man the African-American
>>>Church, and people who attend them, have been under tremendous
>>>attack ever since last March with no let-up.  Ever since I began
>>>attending and became saved in African-American churches in 1972,
>>>I've heard dirty, dirty comments like:  "they just do in their
>>>church what they did in the slave days."  In the slave days,
>>>African-Americans weren't permitted to know anything of the Bible
>>>but "Servants obey your masters in the Lord for this is right.
>>>
>>>If people say what people have said about one another's churches
>>>ever since last March, referring to us as blind people, we'd be up
>>>in arms.  Let us all be more careful.
>>>
>>>It hit me like a thunderbolt while I was playing piano at a senior
>>>citizens building today why you all were upset.  And as upset as you
>>>were last Thursday night, Linda, I was that upset one month ago when
>>>I read what you particularly sent me privately at 5:00 on a Sunday
>>>morning while  I was getting ready for church.  I'm sorry and maybe
>>>we can understand one another better now.
>>>
>>>  has been
>>>
>>>"Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a
>>>human soul," American Humorist Mark Twain
>>>
>>>"An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us," Dr. Kenneth
>>>Jernigan, Immediate Past President, National Federation of the Blind
>>>
>>>"A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city: and
>>>their contentions are like the bars of a castle." Proverbs 18 19. KJV
>>>
>>>"Faith is the ability to see God in the dark.," (unknown)
>>>
>>>"No one can do it for us but us," Rev. Jesse Jackson, Operation Push, 1976.
>>>
>>>"With proper training, development, and opportunity, blindness can
>>>be reduced to the level of a physical nuisance or characteristic,"
>>>the Late Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, Past President, National Federation
>>>of the Blind.
>>>
>>>Julie Vogt or jcvogt at pressenter.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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