[Faith-talk] False Accusations

Sun Nov 9 14:53:30 UTC 2008

Beth, I've thought of that also about the blind woman part.

Here's the thing that's hanging me up about what's on the table about 
marriage.  They're trying to get into the bill that marriage should be for 
procreation reasons only.

Personally I found the love of my life as a senior citizen.  He is also 
close to my age.  What if all of a sudden, you're too old to get married 
because you're not procreative?  Some people who get married, whatever their 
age, because of their make-up, and most people know their make-up, shouldn't 
bring children into the mix.  I'm reminded of something that happened at a 
Democrat neighborhood caucus in the '80's in North Minneapolis when I lived 
there that sickened me for days, but I'm up against the clock to tell it. 
I'm trying to be ready for church in my mental state now because we are 
having "pot blessing" dinner today and I have a big kettle of chicken and 
dumplings and an equally big kettle of mashed potatoes that I have to think 
of transporting downstairs soon so I can catch a vehicle.  I'm on the fourth 
floor.  Fortunately I have help and we have grocery carts we can bring food 
down in.  The earlier you get up to be ready, the more you rush and the more 
there is unexpectedly to do.  But remind me because this is something even 
Democrats among us talked about for days afterwards.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 7:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations

>I don't care if Obama's half-black.  God's people will come to
> understand a few things:
> 1. Marriage, for example, is not between "one man and one woman".  It
> is between two able parties, same o different sex, that are actually
> willing to stay together.  Our high divorce rate of heterosexual
> couples mostly is bad for our children herein America.
> 2. Abortion should never happen.  If it's something that has to do
> with the mother's life and health, then that's the only exception.
> But rape and birth control reasons are not good ones.
> 3. Blind people can and wwill have equal rights to vote, gain security
> benefits, and so on.  Yes, Obama's the most liberal, but we need him.
> Maybe he's a lot more Christian than Bush was.  But God's people must
> not be against him.  I'm a Catholic, and I'm also a liberal as well.
> Obama has also beat Kennedy by so many years.  ANything having to do
> with race is out as far as I'm concerned.  Next, what will happen when
> a woman is in the White House?  What about a blind woman? lol
> Beth
>
> On 11/8/08, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> Hi Julie,
>>
>> I'm sorry, too.  I'm not against our president elect because he's
>> black.  Fact is, he's half black.  That's neither here nor
>> there.  It's mainly because he's the most liberal of all in Congress,
>> and I believe that a lot of our rights will be taken away once he is
>> sworn in.  We'll see what happens, but I'm praying for him, and all
>> the rest in authority over us.  I sent those things to you because I
>> knew you wouldn't find out from the mainstream media.  But the
>> election has made history, and God's people need to be more vigilent than
>> ever.
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> At 03:33 PM 11/8/2008, you wrote:
>>>It happened by accident.  When you didn't stop attacking in my
>>>in-box--those of you who did it--people of other races by way of our
>>>new President-elect, I wrote what I wrote.  Now you know how false
>>>accusations hurt everybody.  Because of one man the African-American
>>>Church, and people who attend them, have been under tremendous
>>>attack ever since last March with no let-up.  Ever since I began
>>>attending and became saved in African-American churches in 1972,
>>>I've heard dirty, dirty comments like:  "they just do in their
>>>church what they did in the slave days."  In the slave days,
>>>African-Americans weren't permitted to know anything of the Bible
>>>but "Servants obey your masters in the Lord for this is right.
>>>
>>>If people say what people have said about one another's churches
>>>ever since last March, referring to us as blind people, we'd be up
>>>in arms.  Let us all be more careful.
>>>
>>>It hit me like a thunderbolt while I was playing piano at a senior
>>>citizens building today why you all were upset.  And as upset as you
>>>were last Thursday night, Linda, I was that upset one month ago when
>>>I read what you particularly sent me privately at 5:00 on a Sunday
>>>morning while  I was getting ready for church.  I'm sorry and maybe
>>>we can understand one another better now.
>>>
>>>  has been
>>>
>>>"Loyalty to petrified opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a
>>>human soul," American Humorist Mark Twain
>>>
>>>"An attack on one of us is an attack on all of us," Dr. Kenneth
>>>Jernigan, Immediate Past President, National Federation of the Blind
>>>
>>>"A brother offended is harder to be won than a strong city: and
>>>their contentions are like the bars of a castle." Proverbs 18 19. KJV
>>>
>>>"Faith is the ability to see God in the dark.," (unknown)
>>>
>>>"No one can do it for us but us," Rev. Jesse Jackson, Operation Push, 
>>>1976.
>>>
>>>"With proper training, development, and opportunity, blindness can
>>>be reduced to the level of a physical nuisance or characteristic,"
>>>the Late Dr. Kenneth Jernigan, Past President, National Federation
>>>of the Blind.
>>>
>>>Julie Vogt or jcvogt at pressenter.com
>>>
>>>
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