[Faith-talk] False Accusations
Alan Wheeler
awheeler at neb.rr.com
Mon Nov 10 09:19:43 UTC 2008
Yep, I even showed her two different scriptures that point this out.
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There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither is there any rock like our God.
1 Samuel 2:2
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Alan D Wheeler
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Corey Cook" <ccook01 at knology.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
> Sorry Beth,
> All people are sinners.
> Includes me and you.
> Hard pill to take sometimes
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>
>
>> Okay, please don't compare my friends in college to drunks and liars.
>> They are who they are and they're different people, so please. Just
>> ... pleeeeeeeeze don't compare them to anythng less than what they
>> are: people.
>> Beth
>>
>> On 11/10/08, Beth <thebluesisloose at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ROTFL! What a joke!
>>> Beth
>>>
>>> On 11/10/08, Corey Cook <ccook01 at knology.net> wrote:
>>>> Well siad Frank
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Frank Lordi" <timber_wolf899 at yahoo.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 11:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The bible clearly states that homosexual sex is an abomination.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is one of the hardest things about believing. We must submit to
>>>>> God's law. We are 'a stif fnecked people' so this is difficult but we
>>>>> must do it. We need not understand, we need not agree, but we must
>>>>> obey.
>>>>> Our Lord says those are his friends who keep his commands. So if we
>>>>> want
>>>>> to be his friend, we must accept among other things, that homosexual
>>>>> sex
>>>>> is a sin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps it will help to look at it this way. I like women a great
>>>>> deal.
>>>>> I cannot stop liking women. Often times i 'want' badly to have
>>>>> relations
>>>>> with said women, but God's law says no, so i must follow this or accept
>>>>> the wages of sin.
>>>>>
>>>>> The same goes for homosexuals, for cleptomaniacs, for the greedy, the
>>>>> hopeless, etc. We all have our crosses to carry, our temptations to
>>>>> resist.
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Sun, 11/9/08, BMW <lynnwhite51 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: BMW <lynnwhite51 at sbcglobal.net>
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>>>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 10:49 PM
>>>>>> Beth, sex outside of the relationship between a husband and
>>>>>> wife is a sin.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <timber_wolf899 at yahoo.com>; "Faith-talk,for
>>>>>> the discussion of faith and
>>>>>> religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:12 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Okay, if homosexuality is a sin, guess what? What
>>>>>> about the
>>>>>> > homosexuals who have homosexual relations with each
>>>>>> other and cannot
>>>>>> > be attracted to opposite sex members? I again may
>>>>>> mention that I have
>>>>>> > friends who are gay/lesbian. And I am pleased with
>>>>>> Obama in the white
>>>>>> > house. God knows what's best, and I believe in a
>>>>>> God who loves all,
>>>>>> > and God knows that homosexuality is a sin, but it is a
>>>>>> sin between
>>>>>> > those who can physically have someone of the opposite
>>>>>> sex along with
>>>>>> > being attracted with someone of the opposite sex.
>>>>>> Take my
>>>>>> > ex-boyfriend for instance. He likes women, but if he
>>>>>> went to sleep
>>>>>> > with a young college friend of mine who I know is
>>>>>> attracted to girls,
>>>>>> > THAT is a sin. But if my friend who is lesbian went
>>>>>> to sleep with the
>>>>>> > equally lesbian girlfriend, it is not a sin. We must
>>>>>> love everybody
>>>>>> > unconditionally, and we must not say that they are
>>>>>> committing a sin
>>>>>> > unless they really are and have the brain chemicals
>>>>>> made up so that
>>>>>> > they are attracted to someone of the opposite sex. I
>>>>>> am attracted to
>>>>>> > menh, so if I went to sleep with my college roommate,
>>>>>> for instance,
>>>>>> > that would be a in in itself. I am blind, and if I
>>>>>> married a blind
>>>>>> > man, that would be fine. But the way this country and
>>>>>> the bible seems
>>>>>> > to be interpreted, homosexuality would be stomped out
>>>>>> and next will be
>>>>>> > blindness. Before we know it, our listservs will be
>>>>>> in jeopardy, an
>>>>>> > then, we wouldn't be able to marry, write, read,
>>>>>> go to college, and if
>>>>>> > the Terrorists get our country, and that is if Barack
>>>>>> Obama's not
>>>>>> > watching over us, we will be wearing veils if
>>>>>> we're female. I for one
>>>>>> > do not want any ore arguments about homosexuality to
>>>>>> ever pop up again
>>>>>> > on this listserv. I want to play it straight: it may
>>>>>> be a sin, but
>>>>>> > unfortunately, nobody understands the homosexual
>>>>>> cannot be changed if
>>>>>> > they are truly homosexual. I understand my friends,
>>>>>> and they are good
>>>>>> > people. They are going to college and they are going
>>>>>> to be band and
>>>>>> > chorus teachers. Do you people thin that these girls
>>>>>> I'm friends with
>>>>>> > shouldn't be band and chorus teachers to young
>>>>>> children because they
>>>>>> > are homosexuals? According to the weird article I
>>>>>> read, yes. But I'd
>>>>>> > hire them any time.
>>>>>> > Anyway, that's my soap box for today.
>>>>>> > Beth
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On 11/9/08, Frank Lordi
>>>>>> <timber_wolf899 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >> you are speakin gof the concept of 'blood
>>>>>> guilt'?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> This so often brought grief to Isreal, no?
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> --- On Sun, 11/9/08, Corey Cook
>>>>>> <ccook01 at knology.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >>> From: Corey Cook <ccook01 at knology.net>
>>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>>>> >>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of
>>>>>> faith and religion"
>>>>>> >>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >>> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:44 PM
>>>>>> >>> Homosexuality is sin.
>>>>>> >>> Read Romans 1
>>>>>> >>> read first Corinthians 6
>>>>>> >>> Yes we need to love them just as we love all
>>>>>> sinners, but
>>>>>> >>> it is time to call it what it is, and that is
>>>>>> sin!
>>>>>> >>> It is a sin that will be the end of this
>>>>>> country if we
>>>>>> >>> allow it to be accepted and embraced.
>>>>>> >>> Not a popular thought, but a true one.
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan
>>>>>> Wheeler"
>>>>>> >>> <awheeler at neb.rr.com>
>>>>>> >>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of
>>>>>> faith and
>>>>>> >>> religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 6:29 PM
>>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False Accusations
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> > Never mind. I keep telling you it is
>>>>>> called a sin in
>>>>>> >>> the bible...if you don't want to believe
>>>>>> that God calls
>>>>>> >>> it a sin, I can't say anything to sway
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > +-+-+-
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > There is none holy as the LORD: for
>>>>>> there is none
>>>>>> >>> beside thee: neither is there any rock like
>>>>>> our God.
>>>>>> >>> > 1 Samuel 2:2
>>>>>> >>> > ~~~
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > Alan D Wheeler
>>>>>> >>> > awheeler at neb.rr.com
>>>>>> >>> > IM me at: outlaw-cowboy at live.com
>>>>>> >>> > Skype: redwheel1
>>>>>> >>> > Check me out on the Q, Fridays from 10 AM
>>>>>> to 1 PM
>>>>>> >>> eastern time at www.theqonline.net
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> > ----- Original Message ----- From:
>>>>>> "Beth"
>>>>>> >>> <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>> > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion
>>>>>> of faith and
>>>>>> >>> religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >>> > Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 2:41 PM
>>>>>> >>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False
>>>>>> Accusations
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >
>>>>>> >>> >> We're talking about a country
>>>>>> where not
>>>>>> >>> everybody believes in God. We
>>>>>> >>> >> Christians are shoving God down the
>>>>>> throats of
>>>>>> >>> those who don't know
>>>>>> >>> >> him. We need to pray for the
>>>>>> homosexuals and
>>>>>> >>> those who are
>>>>>> >>> >> experiencing a so-called sin ad we
>>>>>> need to be
>>>>>> >>> nicer to these people
>>>>>> >>> >> for God's own sake.
>>>>>> >>> >> Beth
>>>>>> >>> >>
>>>>>> >>> >> On 11/9/08, Alan Wheeler
>>>>>> >>> <awheeler at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >>> At the same time, homosexuality
>>>>>> is called a
>>>>>> >>> sin and abomination by God. So
>>>>>> >>> >>> you think we should allow people
>>>>>> to continue
>>>>>> >>> to sin against God?
>>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >>> +-+-+-
>>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >>> We know that all things work
>>>>>> together for
>>>>>> >>> good for those who love God, to
>>>>>> >>> >>> those
>>>>>> >>> >>> who are called according to his
>>>>>> purpose.
>>>>>> >>> >>> Romans 8:28
>>>>>> >>> >>> ~~~
>>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >>> Alan D Wheeler
>>>>>> >>> >>> awheeler at neb.rr.com
>>>>>> >>> >>> IM me at: outlaw-cowboy at live.com
>>>>>> >>> >>> Skype: redwheel1
>>>>>> >>> >>> Check me out on the Q, Fridays
>>>>>> from 10 AM to 1
>>>>>> >>> PM eastern time at
>>>>>> >>> >>> www.theqonline.net
>>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> >>> >>> From: "Beth"
>>>>>> >>> <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>> >>> To: "Faith-talk,for the
>>>>>> discussion of
>>>>>> >>> faith and religion"
>>>>>> >>> >>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >>> >>> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008
>>>>>> 10:44 AM
>>>>>> >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] False
>>>>>> Accusations
>>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>> I would have toagree with
>>>>>> Julie. Marriage
>>>>>> >>> is about love, not
>>>>>> >>> >>>> procreative reasons only.
>>>>>> I've known
>>>>>> >>> friends who've gotten married as
>>>>>> >>> >>>> nonprocreative peoples.
>>>>>> Also, has anybody
>>>>>> >>> thought that marriage
>>>>>> >>> >>>> should at least be for those
>>>>>> that can
>>>>>> >>> participate in it as well?
>>>>>> >>> >>>> Also, if we have bans on
>>>>>> same-sex
>>>>>> >>> marriage, think of it this way: we
>>>>>> >>> >>>> are forcing religion on the
>>>>>> people, which
>>>>>> >>> God really doesn't want us
>>>>>> >>> >>>> to do. To be Christ-like is
>>>>>> not to shove
>>>>>> >>> God down the throats of
>>>>>> >>> >>>> those who don't know him,
>>>>>> but to
>>>>>> >>> spread God's love to them, to let
>>>>>> >>> >>>> them be free people.
>>>>>> >>> >>>> Beth
>>>>>> >>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>> On 11/9/08, Alan Wheeler
>>>>>> >>> <awheeler at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> Beth,
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> I gently disagree with
>>>>>> you. Marriage
>>>>>> >>> was designed by God to be between a
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> man and a woman.
>>>>>> Don't take issue
>>>>>> >>> because I said it. Study the Bible
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> and
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> if you still don't
>>>>>> like it, then
>>>>>> >>> you have to take it up with God. It was
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> His idea to begin with,
>>>>>> not man's.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> +-+-+-
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> The LORD is my
>>>>>> strength and song,
>>>>>> >>> and he is become my salvation: he is
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> my
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> God, and I will prepare
>>>>>> him an
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> habitation; my
>>>>>> father's God, and
>>>>>> >>> I will exalt him.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> Exodus 15:2
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> ~~~
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> Alan D Wheeler
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> awheeler at neb.rr.com
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> IM me at:
>>>>>> outlaw-cowboy at live.com
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> Skype: redwheel1
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> Check me out on the Q,
>>>>>> Fridays from 10
>>>>>> >>> AM to 1 PM eastern time at
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> www.theqonline.net
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> ----- Original Message
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> From: "Beth"
>>>>>> >>> <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> >>> discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> Sent: Sunday, November
>>>>>> 09, 2008 7:29
>>>>>> >>> AM
>>>>>> >>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk]
>>>>>> False
>>>>>> >>> Accusations
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> I don't care if
>>>>>> Obama's
>>>>>> >>> half-black. God's people will come to
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> understand a few
>>>>>> things:
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> 1. Marriage, for
>>>>>> example, is not
>>>>>> >>> between "one man and one woman". It
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> is between two able
>>>>>> parties, same
>>>>>> >>> o different sex, that are actually
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> willing to stay
>>>>>> together. Our
>>>>>> >>> high divorce rate of heterosexual
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> couples mostly is bad
>>>>>> for our
>>>>>> >>> children herein America.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> 2. Abortion should
>>>>>> never happen.
>>>>>> >>> If it's something that has to do
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> with the mother's
>>>>>> life and
>>>>>> >>> health, then that's the only exception.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> But rape and birth
>>>>>> control reasons
>>>>>> >>> are not good ones.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> 3. Blind people can
>>>>>> and wwill have
>>>>>> >>> equal rights to vote, gain security
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> benefits, and so on.
>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>> >>> Obama's the most liberal, but we need him.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Maybe he's a lot
>>>>>> more
>>>>>> >>> Christian than Bush was. But God's people
>>>>>> must
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> not be against him.
>>>>>> I'm a
>>>>>> >>> Catholic, and I'm also a liberal as well.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Obama has also beat
>>>>>> Kennedy by so
>>>>>> >>> many years. ANything having to do
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> with race is out as
>>>>>> far as I'm
>>>>>> >>> concerned. Next, what will happen when
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> a woman is in the
>>>>>> White House?
>>>>>> >>> What about a blind woman? lol
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> Beth
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>> On 11/8/08, Linda
>>>>>> Mentink
>>>>>> >>> <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Hi Julie,
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> I'm sorry,
>>>>>> too. I'm
>>>>>> >>> not against our president elect because
>>>>>> he's
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> black. Fact is,
>>>>>> he's half
>>>>>> >>> black. That's neither here nor
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> there. It's
>>>>>> mainly
>>>>>> >>> because he's the most liberal of all in
>>>>>> Congress,
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> and I believe
>>>>>> that a lot of
>>>>>> >>> our rights will be taken away once he is
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> sworn in.
>>>>>> We'll see what
>>>>>> >>> happens, but I'm praying for him, and all
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> the rest in
>>>>>> authority over us.
>>>>>> >>> I sent those things to you because I
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> knew you
>>>>>> wouldn't find out
>>>>>> >>> from the mainstream media. But the
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> election has made
>>>>>> history, and
>>>>>> >>> God's people need to be more vigilent
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> than
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> ever.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>> At 03:33 PM
>>>>>> 11/8/2008, you
>>>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> It happened
>>>>>> by accident.
>>>>>> >>> When you didn't stop attacking in my
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> in-box--those
>>>>>> of you who
>>>>>> >>> did it--people of other races by way of our
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> new
>>>>>> President-elect, I
>>>>>> >>> wrote what I wrote. Now you know how false
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> accusations
>>>>>> hurt
>>>>>> >>> everybody. Because of one man the
>>>>>> African-American
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Church, and
>>>>>> people who
>>>>>> >>> attend them, have been under tremendous
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> attack ever
>>>>>> since last
>>>>>> >>> March with no let-up. Ever since I began
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> attending and
>>>>>> became saved
>>>>>> >>> in African-American churches in 1972,
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>> heard dirty,
>>>>>> >>> dirty comments like: "they just do in
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> church what
>>>>>> they did in
>>>>>> >>> the slave days." In the slave days,
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> African-Americans
>>>>>> >>> weren't permitted to know anything of the
>>>>>> Bible
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> but
>>>>>> "Servants obey
>>>>>> >>> your masters in the Lord for this is right.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> If people say
>>>>>> what people
>>>>>> >>> have said about one another's churches
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> ever since
>>>>>> last March,
>>>>>> >>> referring to us as blind people, we'd be
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> in arms. Let
>>>>>> us all be
>>>>>> >>> more careful.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> It hit me
>>>>>> like a
>>>>>> >>> thunderbolt while I was playing piano at a
>>>>>> senior
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> citizens
>>>>>> building today
>>>>>> >>> why you all were upset. And as upset as you
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> were last
>>>>>> Thursday night,
>>>>>> >>> Linda, I was that upset one month ago when
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> I read what
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> >>> particularly sent me privately at 5:00 on a
>>>>>> Sunday
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> morning while
>>>>>> I was
>>>>>> >>> getting ready for church. I'm sorry and
>>>>>> maybe
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> we can
>>>>>> understand one
>>>>>> >>> another better now.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> has been
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> "Loyalty
>>>>>> to petrified
>>>>>> >>> opinion never yet broke a chain or freed a
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> human
>>>>>> soul," American
>>>>>> >>> Humorist Mark Twain
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> "An
>>>>>> attack on one of
>>>>>> >>> us is an attack on all of us," Dr.
>>>>>> Kenneth
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Jernigan,
>>>>>> Immediate Past
>>>>>> >>> President, National Federation of the Blind
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> "A
>>>>>> brother offended
>>>>>> >>> is harder to be won than a strong city: and
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> their
>>>>>> contentions are like
>>>>>> >>> the bars of a castle." Proverbs 18 19.
>>>>>> KJV
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> "Faith
>>>>>> is the ability
>>>>>> >>> to see God in the dark.," (unknown)
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> "No one
>>>>>> can do it for
>>>>>> >>> us but us," Rev. Jesse Jackson, Operation
>>>>>> Push,
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> 1976.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> "With
>>>>>> proper
>>>>>> >>> training, development, and opportunity,
>>>>>> blindness can
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> be reduced to
>>>>>> the level of
>>>>>> >>> a physical nuisance or characteristic,"
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> the Late Dr.
>>>>>> Kenneth
>>>>>> >>> Jernigan, Past President, National Federation
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> of the Blind.
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>> Julie Vogt or
>>>>>> >>> jcvogt at pressenter.com
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> >>>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>>
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