[Faith-talk] New School Prayer

Tue Nov 11 00:59:31 UTC 2008

Wow.  Unfortunately, I a the product of sex before marriage, so to
hear that sex before mrriage is wrong almost puts me in a bind because
I am the result of sex before marriage.  I was, in fact.  But my mom
ended up meeting Dad later in life, my current dad.
Beth

On 11/10/08, Alan Wheeler <awheeler at neb.rr.com> wrote:
> Okay, telling young people that sex before marriage is wrong gets us told
> that we're not progressive...or too old fashioned...
>
> If we preach that there is any kjind of sin, that unlike what society says,
> people are *NOT* basically good within, Christians are called intolerant and
> narrow-minded.
>
>
> +-+-+-
>
>    for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of
> yourselves; it is the gift of God, Ephesians 2:8
> ~~~
>
> Alan D Wheeler
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 5:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] New School Prayer
>
>
>> Let's see the list some more, Allan.
>> Beth
>>
>> On 11/10/08, Alan Wheeler <awheeler at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>> Actually, it does.  We've kept God out of schools by, essentially,
>>> outlawing
>>> public prayer.  The Ten Commandments cannot even be displayed outside
>>> courthouses any more...and so much more.
>>>
>>> Spanking children is now considered a reportable form of abuse.  In stead
>>> we're to give our kids "time outs" lest we bruise their tender psyche.
>>> The
>>> list goes on and on.
>>>
>>>
>>> +-+-+-
>>>
>>>    There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee: neither
>>> is
>>> there any rock like our God.
>>>  1 Samuel 2:2
>>> ~~~
>>>
>>> Alan D Wheeler
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>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 4:47 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] New School Prayer
>>>
>>>
>>>> That's weird.  That's totally weird.  But back to the original topic,
>>>> what do you guys think?  Does this poem really talk about the nation?
>>>> I'm sure it does.
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>> On 11/10/08, Alan Wheeler <awheeler at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>> Tghere used to be e-mails about the Miller Beer company giving away
>>>>> free
>>>>> beer, or other companies giving away free products if you forwarded the
>>>>> message to a certain number of people.  Thankfully some of those old
>>>>> hoaxes
>>>>> have died.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> +-+-+-
>>>>>
>>>>>    There is none holy as the LORD: for there is none beside thee:
>>>>> neither
>>>>> is
>>>>> there any rock like our God.
>>>>>  1 Samuel 2:2
>>>>> ~~~
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan D Wheeler
>>>>> awheeler at neb.rr.com
>>>>> IM me at: outlaw-cowboy at live.com
>>>>> Skype: redwheel1
>>>>> Check me out on the Q, Fridays from 10 AM to 1 PM eastern time at
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>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Julie C. Vogt" <jcvogt at pressenter.com>
>>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 3:35 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] New School Prayer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There's all kinds of stuff that goes around the net three times in
>>>>>> every
>>>>>> two-year cycle.  There's a thing about Bill Gates giving away money
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> I get every year and a half that Gates wants to share his wealth with
>>>>>> you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I also heard that Microsoft would send a hefty reward to anyone who
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> disclose that that message was a hoax for any 100 of their friends.
>>>>>> Some
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> this stuff of the net is really freaky.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 1:38 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] New School Prayer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Interesting.  If that prayer isn't new, then why is it on the net
>>>>>>> now?
>>>>>>> I thought this might be a good faith topic to discuss.
>>>>>>> Beth
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/10/08, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Beth and all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That prayer is not new.  It's been around a long time, and is just
>>>>>>>> circulating on the internet again.  I've seen it many times before.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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