[Faith-talk] Fw: BreakPoint: So Much for Tolerance, 11/13/08

Thu Nov 13 18:59:38 UTC 2008

Since when is it lawful for Christians to go to peoples' doors and all but 
ransack their houses for a marriage license and a wedding ring?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Beth" <thebluesisloose at gmail.com>
To: "Everett Gavel" <EverettG at successfuladaptations.com>; "Faith-talk,for 
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Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Fw: BreakPoint: So Much for Tolerance, 11/13/08

> Interesting.  I believe those "mormons" and those other so-called
> Christian hyppocrites did take away the women's rights.  I'm sorry but
> to end this thread, I want to say that my friends who are gay will not
> be living in California because of what happened with Prop. 8.
> Beth
>
> On 11/13/08, Everett Gavel <everettg at successfuladaptations.com> wrote:
>>
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>> Subject: BreakPoint: So Much for Tolerance, 11/13/08
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>> So Much for Tolerance
>> The Aftermath of Prop 8
>>
>> November 13, 2008
>>
>> The ad ran all over California on Election Day -- and
>> surely sets a record for anti-religious bigotry. Two
>> clean-cut young men knock at the door of a lesbian
>> couple. The men identify themselves as Mormon
>> missionaries. "We're here to take away your rights,"
>> they announce.
>>
>> They snatch the women's wedding rings off their fingers
>> and ransack their home. When they find the couple's
>> marriage license, they rip it in half. "Say no to a
>> church taking over your government," the voiceover
>> says. "Vote 'no' on Proposition 8."
>>
>> Despite such vicious attacks, California's Proposition
>> 8, which defined marriage as between one man and one
>> woman, passed. But the assaults on churches have just
>> begun.
>>
>> Two days after the election, 2,000 homosexual
>> protesters surrounded a Mormon temple in Los Angeles
>> chanting "Mormon scum." Protesters picketed Rick
>> Warren's Saddleback Church, holding signs reading
>> "Purpose-Driven Hate." Calvary Chapel in Chino Hills
>> was spray painted. Church members' cars have been
>> vandalized, and at least two Christians were assaulted.
>> Protesters even hurled racial epithets at
>> African-Americans because African-Americans voted
>> overwhelmingly in favor of traditional marriage.
>>
>> This is an outrage. What hypocrisy from those who spend
>> all of their time preaching tolerance to the rest of
>> us!  How dare they threaten and attack political
>> opponents? We live a democratic country, not a banana
>> republic ruled by thugs.
>>
>> Clearly, Christians need to redouble their efforts to
>> help people understand what marriage is all about. In
>> Los Angeles, when protesters gathered at the Cathedral
>> of Our Lady of the Angels, they chanted, "What Would
>> Jesus say?"
>>
>> That's a good question, and the Church should not
>> hesitate to answer it. What would Jesus say about
>> same-sex "marriage?"
>>
>> To get to the answer, let's first understand the
>> meaning and purpose of marriage. In his book THE CLASH
>> OF ORTHODOXIES, Princeton philosopher Robert George
>> writes that matrimonial law reflects a moral
>> judgment -- that marriage is inherently heterosexual,
>> monogamous, and permanent -- a union of one man and one
>> woman.
>>
>> This view reflects the biblical and natural law
>> understanding that marriage is a two-in-one-flesh
>> communion of persons. This communion is consummated by
>> sexual acts that are reproductive in nature. They unite
>> the spouses as a single procreative unit -- an organic
>> unity achieved even by infertile couples. Only a mated
>> pair can be a complete organism capable of human
>> procreation.
>>
>> Since homosexual acts have no relationship to
>> procreation and cannot unite persons organically, these
>> acts cannot be marital -- which means relationships
>> integrated around them cannot be marriages.
>>
>> We've got a winsome case, but we've got to get better
>> equipped to explain it to our neighbors. You could
>> start by reading THE CLASH OF ORTHODOXIES and other
>> material available on our website. And then, start
>> discussing these issues in your small groups, Sunday
>> school classes, and youth groups.
>>
>> By protecting traditional marriage, we aren't taking
>> away anybody's rights. We are simply upholding the
>> framework of society's most basic institution, the loss
>> of which would irreparably damage our families and our
>> society.
>>
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