[Faith-talk] Blindness and church
RJ Sandefur
joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Sat Feb 6 23:19:16 UTC 2010
Thanks. I've always been one to say, if you make a statement about something
reguarding the bible, you need to support it with scripture. Thats what I
was taught in the seminary. RJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "devona able" <djasister at windstream.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
> Will look it up.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: RJ Sandefur
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>
>
> Do you have scripture in order to back up your statement? RJ
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "devona able" <djasister at windstream.net>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:34 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>
>
> > Women do not belong in the pulpit.
> >
> > Devona
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Penny Golden
> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 5:30 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
> >
> >
> > Oh, Beth, I just have to laugh.
> > The Holy Scriptures are also patriarchal in some ways.
> > So though we believe in women's rights, some of us believe that there
> > is Biblical reason not to seek ordination as women.
> > However, most folk do not hold to that anymore. So we're in a
> > distinct minority.
> > It's a subject on which we feel the Scriptures speak without
> > equivocation; but most do not think that we're right in our
> > interpretation.
> > We'll not agree on some things, here, that's certain.
> > Have a blest weekend.
> > At 08:46 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
> > >YOu're right. Both of you. But I am a believer in rights for women
> > >to serve in high roles in churches. Catholicism is notorious for
> > >being so patriarchal.
> > >Beth
> > >
> > >On 2/5/10, Fr. John Sheehan <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > > > The decision is at the discretion of the parish priest - and some,
> > for
> > > > whatever reason, do not like altar girls, whether sighted or not.
> I
> > don't
> > > > agree, but there you are. But there is certainly no reason why a
> > blind
> > > > person - of any sex - could not serve at the altar.
> > > > Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
> > > > Chairman
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Xavier Society for the Blind
> > > > 154 East 23rd St
> > > > New York, NY 10010
> > > > (212) 473-7800
> > > > Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by
> > searching
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
> > > > To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> > > > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 2:50:52 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
> > > >
> > > > This young lady wanted to be an altar girl.
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fr. John Sheehan"
> > > > <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> > > > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:51 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> We provide the Mass Readings in Braille and large-print, and we
> know
> > of
> > > >> blind lectors all over the U.S.
> > > >> Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
> > > >> Chairman
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Xavier Society for the Blind
> > > >> 154 East 23rd St
> > > >> New York, NY 10010
> > > >> (212) 473-7800
> > > >> Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by
> > searching
> > > >> the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch -
> > www.goodsearch.com -
> > > >> powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> ________________________________
> > > >> From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org>
> > > >> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
> > > >> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > > >> Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 9:02:57 AM
> > > >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
> > > >>
> > > >> Never never never. Just the opposite they are asking how to
> include
> > > >> braille
> > > >> in my church and have asked me to sing in the choir and to read
> > during the
> > > >> service as well. If your church is of that position and belief,
> tell
> > them
> > > >> Christ would be disappointed, all who are hungry are welcome at
> his
> > table.
> > > >>
> > > >> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
> > > >> CEO/Founder
> > > >> My Blind Spot, Inc.
> > > >> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
> > > >> New York, New York 10004
> > > >> www.myblindspot.org
> > > >> PH: 917-553-0347
> > > >> Fax: 212-858-5759
> > > >> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the
> one
> > who is
> > > >> doing it."
> > > >>
> > > >>
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> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
> > [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> > > >> On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:56 AM
> > > >> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> > > >> Subject: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
> > > >>
> > > >> I personally haven't had this problem, but, Have any of you been
> > told
> > > >> because of blindness, you couldn't serve in the church? If so,
> How
> > did you
> > > >> respond? RJ
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