[Faith-talk] Blindness and church

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Sat Feb 6 23:19:16 UTC 2010


Thanks. I've always been one to say, if you make a statement about something 
reguarding the bible, you need to support it with scripture. Thats what I 
was taught in the seminary. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "devona able" <djasister at windstream.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 4:33 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church


> Will look it up.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: RJ Sandefur
>  To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>  Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 3:21 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>
>
>  Do you have scripture in order to back up your statement? RJ
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "devona able" <djasister at windstream.net>
>  To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>  <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 12:34 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>
>
>  > Women do not belong in the pulpit.
>  >
>  > Devona
>  >  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  >  From: Penny Golden
>  >  To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>  >  Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 5:30 PM
>  >  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  >
>  >
>  >  Oh, Beth, I just have to laugh.
>  >  The Holy Scriptures are also patriarchal in some ways.
>  >  So though we believe in women's rights, some of us believe that there
>  >  is Biblical reason not to seek ordination as women.
>  >  However, most folk do not hold to that anymore.  So we're in a
>  >  distinct minority.
>  >  It's a subject on which we feel the Scriptures speak without
>  >  equivocation; but most do not think that we're right in our
>  > interpretation.
>  >  We'll not agree on some things, here, that's certain.
>  >  Have a blest weekend.
>  >    At 08:46 AM 2/5/2010, you wrote:
>  >  >YOu're right.  Both of you.  But I am a believer in rights for women
>  >  >to serve in high roles in churches.  Catholicism is notorious for
>  >  >being so patriarchal.
>  >  >Beth
>  >  >
>  >  >On 2/5/10, Fr. John Sheehan <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com> 
> wrote:
>  >  > > The decision is at the discretion of the parish priest - and some,
>  > for
>  >  > > whatever reason, do not like altar girls, whether sighted or not. 
> I
>  > don't
>  >  > > agree, but there you are. But there is certainly no reason why a
>  > blind
>  >  > > person - of any sex - could not serve at the altar.
>  >  > >  Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
>  >  > > Chairman
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > > Xavier Society for the Blind
>  >  > > 154 East 23rd St
>  >  > > New York, NY 10010
>  >  > > (212) 473-7800
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>  >  > >
>  >  > > ________________________________
>  >  > > From: RJ Sandefur <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>  >  > > To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>  >  > > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  >  > > Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 2:50:52 PM
>  >  > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  >  > >
>  >  > > This young lady wanted to be an altar girl.
>  >  > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fr. John Sheehan"
>  >  > > <xaviersocietyfortheblind at yahoo.com>
>  >  > > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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>  >  > > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 1:51 PM
>  >  > > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >> We provide the Mass Readings in Braille and large-print, and we 
> know
>  > of
>  >  > >> blind lectors all over the U.S.
>  >  > >> Fr. John R. Sheehan, SJ
>  >  > >> Chairman
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> Xavier Society for the Blind
>  >  > >> 154 East 23rd St
>  >  > >> New York, NY 10010
>  >  > >> (212) 473-7800
>  >  > >> Help us raise money for the Xavier Society for the Blind just by
>  > searching
>  >  > >> the Internet or shopping online with GoodSearch -
>  > www.goodsearch.com -
>  >  > >> powered by Yahoo! Free for you - and money for us! Thank you.
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> ________________________________
>  >  > >> From: Albert J Rizzi <albert at myblindspot.org>
>  >  > >> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion"
>  >  > >> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>  >  > >> Sent: Wed, February 3, 2010 9:02:57 AM
>  >  > >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> Never never never. Just the opposite they are asking how to 
> include
>  >  > >> braille
>  >  > >> in my church and have asked me to sing in the choir and to read
>  > during the
>  >  > >> service as well. If your church is of that position and belief, 
> tell
>  > them
>  >  > >> Christ would be disappointed, all who are hungry are welcome at 
> his
>  > table.
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> Albert J. Rizzi, M.Ed.
>  >  > >> CEO/Founder
>  >  > >> My Blind Spot, Inc.
>  >  > >> 90 Broad Street - 18th Fl.
>  >  > >> New York, New York  10004
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>  >  > >> PH: 917-553-0347
>  >  > >> Fax: 212-858-5759
>  >  > >> "The person who says it cannot be done, shouldn't interrupt the 
> one
>  > who is
>  >  > >> doing it."
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>  >  > >> -----Original Message-----
>  >  > >> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
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>  >  > >> On Behalf Of RJ Sandefur
>  >  > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 10:56 AM
>  >  > >> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>  >  > >> Subject: [Faith-talk] Blindness and church
>  >  > >>
>  >  > >> I personally haven't had this problem, but, Have any of you been
>  > told
>  >  > >> because of blindness, you couldn't serve in the church? If so, 
> How
>  > did you
>  >  > >> respond? RJ
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