[Faith-talk] Born again versus born christians or any faithmembers

[jaybee]

Remember folk, God promised to provide our needs, not our desires.  It would
be good if our desires always coincide with our needs; unfortunately, they
don't.  God is always sincere.  We can always trust Him.  He has never
renigued on a promise, and He never will.  My faith permits me to believe
fully in God without doubting whatever the situation may be in spite of the
fact that oftentimes I do not understand why things happen the way they do.
When we doubt the sincerity of God it is because of a flaw in our faith, not
because of a flaw in God.  Jaybee
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Born again versus born christians or any
faithmembers


> You know, I hope I don't offend anyone by a humorous line, but I once saw
> a
> plaque with a picture of a cute puppy face on it, and the caption said
> "blessed are those who expect nothing, for they shall not be
> disappointed..."
> That may be  a rude play on the beatitudes, but there is a truth in it
> that
> in a weird way can apply to some of life's situations.  What I mean is, if
> you give someone something not expecting anything in return -- chances are
> you may not get anything in return, but there is that chance that your
> good
> deed will bear fruit.  In either case, you are not disappointed! *smile*
> I know you are talking about the after life and not about daily life, but
> if
> we live this life as if we can't expect anything afterwards unless we do
> good here, hmm--someone help me -- then if there is nothing, are we
> disappointed/? Ok so maybe it doesn't apply exactly. It, after all, is not
> a
> beatitude, but a play on them.
>
> That leads me to say, maybe it would be a good idea to reread the
> beatitudes -- aren't they in Matthew 5? They are quite uplifting as they
> are
> all about blessings.
> Have a great day, whether or not you expect to! *smile*
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:35 AM
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Born again versus born christians or any faith
> members
>
>
> -- 
> Peter
> Webmaster
> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> alternative e-mail
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>
> To list::
>
>
>    I'm wondering what the proportions versus born again to born
> christians are in here on this list? This could consist of any faith
> and in general to us the blind if possible only. I just find it hard
> now that I'm blind to believe in all knowing and all loving God that
> cares about me? I question the sincerity, yet I go to church like
> others. I wander around in my head whether or not it's all a crock
> like Marx stated "Religion is opium for the masses" or there is a all
> knowing-loving God out there for us. Another fundamental in general
> terms is that there are religions before, during and after the
> creation of christianity and who is to say which is right or what is
> wrong? I mean it's all geopolitical and the west's default now is
> christianity, middle east's Islam, far east being China is buddahist
> or Hindi or whatever indigenous religions in the world in Africa to
> Latin America. I also question my faith and pray and return
> continiously to the same cycle of sin over and over. The apathy of
> christians is a self-restrain hypocritical or overly judgemental view
> of a narrow interest privledged lifestyle of upbringing into one
> unquestionable homogenous faith being christianity. Thankss for any
> venting on your part on your voyage to faith or faithlessness as well.
> Another thing is that what if you end up at the end of your life and
> die to find out either nothing is there or your God wasn't who you
> thought in your Bible it was going to be like?
>
> sincerely,
> Pete
>
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Born again versus born christians or any 
faithmembers


> You know, I hope I don't offend anyone by a humorous line, but I once saw 
> a
> plaque with a picture of a cute puppy face on it, and the caption said
> "blessed are those who expect nothing, for they shall not be
> disappointed..."
> That may be  a rude play on the beatitudes, but there is a truth in it 
> that
> in a weird way can apply to some of life's situations.  What I mean is, if
> you give someone something not expecting anything in return -- chances are
> you may not get anything in return, but there is that chance that your 
> good
> deed will bear fruit.  In either case, you are not disappointed! *smile*
> I know you are talking about the after life and not about daily life, but 
> if
> we live this life as if we can't expect anything afterwards unless we do
> good here, hmm--someone help me -- then if there is nothing, are we
> disappointed/? Ok so maybe it doesn't apply exactly. It, after all, is not 
> a
> beatitude, but a play on them.
>
> That leads me to say, maybe it would be a good idea to reread the
> beatitudes -- aren't they in Matthew 5? They are quite uplifting as they 
> are
> all about blessings.
> Have a great day, whether or not you expect to! *smile*
> --le
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Peter Wolfe" <sunspot005 at gmail.com>
> To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 4:35 AM
> Subject: [Faith-talk] Born again versus born christians or any faith 
> members
>
>
> -- 
> Peter
> Webmaster
> http://www.darkstruggle.com
> webmaster at darkstruggle.com
> alternative e-mail
> sunspot005 at gmail.com
>
> To list::
>
>
>    I'm wondering what the proportions versus born again to born
> christians are in here on this list? This could consist of any faith
> and in general to us the blind if possible only. I just find it hard
> now that I'm blind to believe in all knowing and all loving God that
> cares about me? I question the sincerity, yet I go to church like
> others. I wander around in my head whether or not it's all a crock
> like Marx stated "Religion is opium for the masses" or there is a all
> knowing-loving God out there for us. Another fundamental in general
> terms is that there are religions before, during and after the
> creation of christianity and who is to say which is right or what is
> wrong? I mean it's all geopolitical and the west's default now is
> christianity, middle east's Islam, far east being China is buddahist
> or Hindi or whatever indigenous religions in the world in Africa to
> Latin America. I also question my faith and pray and return
> continiously to the same cycle of sin over and over. The apathy of
> christians is a self-restrain hypocritical or overly judgemental view
> of a narrow interest privledged lifestyle of upbringing into one
> unquestionable homogenous faith being christianity. Thankss for any
> venting on your part on your voyage to faith or faithlessness as well.
> Another thing is that what if you end up at the end of your life and
> die to find out either nothing is there or your God wasn't who you
> thought in your Bible it was going to be like?
>
> sincerely,
> Pete
>
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