[Faith-talk] Block Peter Wolfe

Sat Jun 26 17:16:01 UTC 2010

there is calling what someone says and or does one thing or another but it 
seems that this list of lates seems to be stuck on hammering Peter for his 
statements he wrote. we are to forgive and in my oppinion we should move on 
and put it behind and press forward. if one has that much disagreement with 
peter's statements how about dealing with him off list. if this persists to 
continue in this manner i'll leave. if i want to hear bitterness about 
statements made or not made i'll watch t.v or read it in the news.  i'm 
getting the feel here that bitterness has crept in and like other blindness 
related lists i've been on or am on it seems to stick and not be let go of 
readily. where's the love?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "qubit" <lauraeaves at yahoo.com>
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Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 12:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Block Peter Wolfe

> That brings up a point: can a person righteously correct what they see to 
> be
> wrong in someone else's behavior?  Your mail reminds of the "mote and the
> beam"... It is interesting that Jesus spoke out in flaming terms against 
> the
> pharisees of his day, calling them "whited sepulchres" among other things.
> But he also healed the ear of the man in the garden, telling the disciples
> that he was not here to destroy but to save.
> I know of a quote in the mormon faith that says a person should correct at
> times when moved upon by the spirit, then afterwards show an increase of
> love toward the other person, lest he esteem him to be an enemy. I like
> that. But when you think of it, that's also common sense.
> --le
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "daniel strube" <daniel7047 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:38 AM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Block Peter Wolfe
>
>
> I am concerned if we are doingany favors or showing a Christ like attitude
> the way we are talking about someone like we've been doing.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John J. Boyer" <john at godtouches.org>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2010 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Block Peter Wolfe
>
>
>>I am a Catholic. I'm really concerned that Peter is giving Catholicism a
>> bad reputation on this list. The first principle of interreligious
>> dialogue is to respect the other person. The second principle is to
>> respect the other person's freedom of conscience. One should state
>> his/her own beliefs. The worst thing to do is to demonize others for
>> their beliefs. Only slightly worse is the confrontational, arrogant
>> attitude that Peter displays.
>>
>> Let's all pray for Peter, that God will give him a charitable spirit.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2010 at 09:43:51AM -0500, Greg Aikens wrote:
>>> Peter, you miss the point. Its not that everyone disagrees with what
>>> you have to say, although many do I'm sure. The biggest problem in my
>>> opinion is the way you come at what you say. You present your ideas,
>>> often insulting those who disagree with you ahead of time. Then if
>>> someone challenges what you say, you call them a judgmental Christian,
>>> accuse them of not having biblical morrality and then ask why everyone
>>> is so upset with you. Ask your questions with humility, as though you
>>> really wanted to hear the opinions of others. Present your argument
>>> without name calling or mud slinging. Understand that just like
>>> catholics, every other religious group is made up of individuals who
>>> do not want to be stereotyped either. You have admitted to having a
>>> lot to learn about your own faith and Catholicism in specific; so act
>>> like it and ask your questions. Remember that hard questions of faith
>>> are rarely as black and white as you seem to treat them. Sincere,
>>> Bible believing Christians disagree on how biblical principles can and
>>> should be applied in every day life.
>>>
>>> I appreciate having someone on the list who is willing to ask
>>> questions, even questions of how our faith impacts political
>>> decisions. I think that is appropriate for a list like this. What is
>>> not is the inflamatory attitude.
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On 6/26/10, Peter Wolfe <sunspot005 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > John,
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >    I really feel the "Peace, Love, Service" you have in your
>>> > signature. Learning the hard way of fighting for justice and equality?
>>> > You defy the Pope and the Holy Catholic church dear sir. You defy the
>>> > holy order of the church, then logically from my parishes estimation
>>> > you should be officially ex-communicated pronto amigo. The same goes
>>> > for any christian that uses such ruthless barbarian tactics like
>>> > putting capital punishment in their own hands. Plain fact is that the
>>> > United States of America is just like Saudia Arabia and Iran and even
>>> > China in the treatment of our own citizens. Plain truth of the matter
>>> > is that the GINI report with excessive greed and ignorance is rampant
>>> > all around to the wealthy ruling classes dominating the fray over our
>>> > day to day lives. The fact is if you execute a innocent person you
>>> > yourself are acting like God. You have no right to do so and forces
>>> > are in play to equal the playing field and I'm leaving the list
>>> > voluntarily. So, much for being tolerant, loving and compassionant
>>> > christians on stances of moral perptitude and moral dignity. Go ahead
>>> > put another assault battery, electric chair, hanginging, or lethal
>>> > injection on another person. Judgers of men are judgers indeed.
>>> >
>>> > God bless,
>>> > Peter
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 6/26/10, John J. Boyer <john at godtouches.org> wrote:
>>> >> Linda,
>>> >>
>>> >> I think most of us have had enough of Peter Wolfe. He will have to
>>> >> learn
>>> >> the hard way that his approach is not effective. Meanwhile, please
>>> >> block
>>> >> him from this list.
>>> >>
>>> >> John
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> John J. Boyer, Executive Director
>>> >> GodTouches Digital Ministry, Inc.
>>> >> http://www.godtouches.org
>>> >> Madison, Wisconsin, USA
>>> >> Peace, Love, Service
>>> >>
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Peter Q. Wolfe, AS
>>> > sunspot005 at gmail.com
>>> >
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