[Faith-talk] Episkipal church was R.C. Sproul's magazine andsite

Thu Dec 1 15:27:22 UTC 2011

The Episkipal Church, is like the Catholic church.
The differences are noted in my previous post.
Blessings, Joshua

On 12/1/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> when you say they're like catholics, is this the Espicapalians you're
> refering to?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 10:01 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Episkipal church was R.C. Sproul's magazine
> andsite
>
> They're like the Catholic church, without all of the confession to the
> priests.
> They baptize infants, as well.
> I have classes with an Episkipalian, from another town.
> They still do the sign of the cross.
> The Anglicans don't do those repetitious "Hale Marrys."
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 11/30/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Joshua,
>> Yikes. I thought I read Anglicans/Episkipal was the same thing. This
>> confirms it.
>> I wonder if they still practice some of the same rituals in church as the
>> Church of England?
>> They do use instruments and hymnals in worship.
>>
>> The other thing I know is they  kneel in parts of service. If anyone from
>> that denomination is here, I'm curious to know  what they do with
>> communion
>> and baptism.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:53 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>
>> Yes.
>> They're known as Episkipalians, now.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 11/30/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> oh this answers one question. So terms "church of england" and "anglican"
>>> are the same.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Paul
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 5:52 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>>
>>> The Wesley family were all Anglican or members of the Church of England.
>>> Paul
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:40 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>>
>>>
>>> Joshua,
>>> Do you mean John Wesley?
>>> What does he have to do with George Fox?
>>> You said you read Calvinist and Quaker preachers and then mention these
>>> names.
>>>
>>> If we are talking about the same Wesley, he founded the Methodist church,
>>> but may have been Quaker; not sure.
>>> His teachings do line up with scripture.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:46 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>>
>>> Predestination is for the church, as a group, not individual
>>> predestination.
>>> I have read writings by both Calvinists, and Quaker preachers, (I came
>>> out of the Quaker church.)
>>> I find Wesley's beliefs supported with scripture, and in my oppinion,
>>> Wesley, and George Fox line up more with scripture, than Calvin.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 11/28/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> gee joshua here we go again with you judging folks and telling us who is
>>>> wrong and who is right, you are blessed that the folks on here who do
>>>> not
>>>> agree with you don't call your favorite teachers such things, once again
>>>> you
>>>> do not understand the calvinist teachings, you are taking one scripture
>>>> and
>>>> trying to create doctrine out of it or listening to folks and taking
>>>> their
>>>> word for it, you need to read all scripture in context, once saved
>>>> always
>>>> saved is a very missunderstood doctrine as well, if a person is saved
>>>> and
>>>> back slides permanently then maybe they were never actually saved, and
>>>> the
>>>> idea of predestination is supported by just as many scriptures as your
>>>> beliefs are supported by, so it is up to each of us as Christians who
>>>> have
>>>> the Holy Spirit dwelling is us to read, pray and listen to teachings and
>>>> discern what we believ to be true, it is overwhelmingly irritating to
>>>> have
>>>> you a very very young person and a very very young Christian to sit here
>>>> and
>>>> tell us all what is true and what is not true, you are not the end all
>>>> be
>>>> all authority, and you just keep insulting folks and judging them based
>>>> on
>>>> what you ahve been taught, others might think you are wrong and
>>>> missinformed
>>>> you know? be kind and gentle in spirit, you can share your beliefs but
>>>> as
>>>> has been said before on this list, quit telling us what is a fact based
>>>> on
>>>> your own personal beliefs
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:21 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> John Calvin was a Frenchman, that taught many false teachings.
>>>> Here's a quote from Calvin, that turns me away from his doctrine.
>>>> "There are babies in Hell, the size of the span of a man's hand."
>>>> He believed in predestination.
>>>> Most of your baptist friends, (mainly those of Charles Stanley's
>>>> persuasion,) believe in some form of predestination.
>>>> One form is Unconditional Eternal Security, which, (if you were a
>>>> Wesleyan Methodist,) you would have heard the phrase, Once Saved
>>>> Always Saved.
>>>> This means, no matter what you do, you can still go to Heaven if you
>>>> were once saved.
>>>> This means, that there's no such thing as a backslider.
>>>> You can smoke, drink, fornicate, and do everything in the world, and
>>>> still make Heaven, while you're in sin.
>>>> Whatever happened to holiness, and separation?
>>>> I miss old time Holiness, and Wesleyan preaching!
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>> Jeannette,
>>>>> Yes. When I heard him, he doesn't have a rambling style like some bible
>>>>> teachers.
>>>>> He also backs up what he says with tons of scripture as well as the
>>>>> historical
>>>>> context. That is what is appealing. I also listen to other preachers of
>>>>> the
>>>>> Baptist faith and nondenominational ones as well on our Christian radio
>>>>> station. I like them for various reasons. People such as Charles
>>>>> Stanley
>>>>> and
>>>>> David Jeremiah are just a few of them.
>>>>> So he is a Calvinist. I didn't know that before this list; the radio
>>>>> station
>>>>> did not say, so I thought he might be nondenominational.
>>>>> What does that mean? I know there was a guy named something Calvin
>>>>> after
>>>>> the
>>>>> Protestant reformation. But its been so long since I studied the Middle
>>>>> ages
>>>>> and Renaissance that I forget what exactly Calvin did or what he
>>>>> founded.
>>>>> He
>>>>> was British is what I recall.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is this  monthly teaching on CD about? Is it free?
>>>>> The website did have some articles from the magazine, but I don't
>>>>> believe
>>>>> it’s
>>>>> the full magazine.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jeanette
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:11 PM
>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>>>>
>>>>> i have heard that the classes are accessable, if not i am sure they
>>>>> would
>>>>> work to see that they could be, R.C. Sproul is amazing, i get his
>>>>> monthly
>>>>> teaching on cd and enjoy it a lot, he is amazing and so knowledgable in
>>>>> the
>>>>> Bible, he is  of course a Calvinist, and all of his teachings are
>>>>> backed
>>>>> up
>>>>> by tons and tons of scripture in context with historical info
>>>>> included,
>>>>> i
>>>>> do get the monthly magazine which is easy to read with kurzweil.
>>>>> ligonier.org is how i think it is spelled, let me go look.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>>>> To: "for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk"
>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:22 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeanette said in the magazine thread
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you can also go on ligoneir.org to read the Tabletalk magazine by R.
>>>>>> C.
>>>>>> Sproul if he is your cup of tea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think this is the wrong spelling as that site did not work. Anyone
>>>>>> know
>>>>>> his site? I was on it one time but forget its address; I linked from
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> website to his.
>>>>>> He is good; I listen to his study broadcast called Renewing your mind.
>>>>>> I don’t think the Tabletalk magazine is fully online; but better some
>>>>>> than
>>>>>>
>>>>>> none. The articles are the current issue, but it’s a sampling of the
>>>>>> hard
>>>>>> copy magazine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also has anyone taken his bible online classes? Are they accessible? I
>>>>>> don’t
>>>>>> have time to do it now, but might someday and was curious to know if
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> worked with screen readers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ashley
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