[Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living

[Jeanette]

boy you sure seem to have a lot of time to watch all kinds of stuff on 
youtube and of course you are the authority of all these subjects, legalism 
is legalism no matter what you want to call it to justify the rules
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living


> Also, the women of the Greek culture were sacrificing their hair to
> Diana, a goddess.
> They thought that they had to do the same for Christ, so that's
> another reason why Paul told them not to do it.
> Go to Youtube, and listen to Lee Stoneking's message on hair.
> A note, a liberal uploaded the sermon, and gave it his own title, in 
> mockery.
> "Holy Magic Hair," is not the name of the sermon, although that is how
> it's labeled on Youtube.
> The real name is "The Importance of Women's hair."
> Brother Stoneking's site is here.
> http://www.leestoneking.net
> Read his church history link too.
> He has lots of information on here, and as an illumnis of "Christ for
> the Nations," and former Campus Crusade for Christ regional president,
> in the NYC area, he's a reliable source for this info.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 12/1/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>> In Jewish culture, short hair on a woman was a mark of adultery (Numbers
>> 5:11-31)
>> In Greek culture, those women who wore short hair were confessing 
>> themselves
>> to be prostitutes or lesbians. Therefore, if a woman cut her hair she 
>> became
>> identified with those groups of people. Hence, the admonishment that 
>> women
>> weren't supposed to cut their hair.
>>
>> I don't think there is anything worse, in this world, than a legalistic
>> spirit. Legalism comes about when we get caught up in traditions without
>> understanding the reason for the tradition.
>>
>> It matters very little now that women wear pants or cut their hair or 
>> wear
>> makeup. They are generally not making a statement endorsing habitual sin
>> when they wear pants, cut their hair or wear makeup.
>>
>> It is not true that women did not cut their hair until the 20's. it is 
>> true,
>> however, that the majority of women did not cut their hair before the 
>> turn
>> of the 20th century. However, some professional women (and I'm not 
>> talking
>> about prostitutes) cut their hair because it interfered with their work 
>> or
>> the hair was hard to maintain and keep clean. Consider some nurses that
>> worked in the civil war time. Some of them cut their hair. They weren't
>> thought to be harlots or adulterers. They used common sense.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org 
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>> On Behalf Of Ashley Bramlett
>> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 9:30 AM
>> To: for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living
>>
>> Hi all,
>> Interesting  what Joshua said in two threads. I'm combining them as I 
>> think
>> hair/modesty is a separate thread from the mennonites or Wesley thread.
>> I know the Bible teaches modesty but that can mean different things to
>> different people. Also, most women follow cultural norms so we can live 
>> in a
>> secular society and make a living. So even if women didn't wear pants, 
>> they
>> do in the 21th century because its business casual, more comfortable than
>> skirts or dresses, and of course much easier to put on and wash.
>>
>> I can understand the makeup and not wearing pantss, but not cutting hair 
>> is
>> impractical.
>>
>>
>> Anyone else found the hair reference and know any women who don't cut 
>> hair?
>> Joshua said,
>> "Women didn't ever cut their hair, until the 1920's.
>> This was when "Bobbed Hair," became popular."
>>
>> and then said
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "The Church of England, was Calvinist, (reformed.) The Wesleys taught
>> holiness.
>> Women didn't cut their hair, wear makeup, or pants.
>> They still don't."
>>
>> I don't know anyone following Wesley who doesn't cut hair. Yes I agree 
>> Wesly
>> preached holiness and modesty. But not sure on the hair specifically.
>>
>>
>> To me modesty means things like not showing too much, not wearing tank 
>> tops,
>> having nice manners, and being generous. I do wear some jewelry, but I 
>> don't
>> get too fancy; I don't think I overdue it. just a solid colored bracelet 
>> or
>> earrings.
>>
>> Ashley
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