[Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living

[Jeanette]

paul was not one and you should always read scriptures in context,m ths is 
where we get all thisfalse doctrine when we take scriptures out of context 
and out of the times they were written in, legalism is great at that.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living


Where Is Corinthians? New testament? I'll look up this scripture. But I feel
I'll need to read all chapter 11 then. If not, scripture references are
often taken out of context.
This is basic. I know Jesus had 12 disciples. Was Paul one of them? I know
Peter was one.
Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:59 PM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living

Actually:
you know that in 1 Corinthians 11, that it says that your hair is your
crowning glory.
The apostle Paul taught this.
BTW, Crystal's hair was as long as always, in 2008, when we heard her
at the Grand Ole Opry.
Blessings, Joshua

On 12/1/11, Amy Ragain <belovedconsecrated2god at gmail.com> wrote:
> Joshua,
> you pointed out that Christal Gail didnt cut her hair but if you were a 
> true
> fan of her's you convinently forgot to mention the fact that her oridganal
> reason for not cutting it had nothing to do with relidgous reasons.  she
> herself will even say that it was a prideful thing...her hair was viewed 
> as
> her glory...and besides she eventually did cut it in the later days...is 
> it
> still being modist to not cut your hair if you have so much pride in it 
> that
> you refused to cut it??
> and if we aren't supposed to cut our hair would you also tell us that we
> must cover our heads also in order to remain modest??  where do you draw 
> the
> line???
> do you whare shorts in the summer time? some ppl would say you are being
> imodest for doing so...how bout short sleeved shirts??   as I said, where 
> do
> you draw the line??
>
>
> On Dec 1, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Interesting  what Joshua said in two threads. I’m combining them as I
>> think hair/modesty is a separate thread from the mennonites or Wesley
>> thread.
>> I know the Bible teaches modesty but that can mean different things to
>> different people. Also, most women follow cultural norms so we can live 
>> in
>> a secular society and make a living. So even if women didn’t wear pants,
>> they do in the 21th century because its business casual, more comfortable
>> than skirts or dresses, and of course much easier to put on and wash.
>>
>> I can understand the makeup and not wearing pantss, but not cutting hair
>> is impractical.
>>
>>
>> Anyone else found the hair reference and know any women who don’t cut
>> hair?
>> Joshua said,
>> “Women didn't ever cut their hair, until the 1920's.
>> This was when "Bobbed Hair," became popular.”
>>
>> and then said
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> “The Church of England, was Calvinist, (reformed.)
>> The Wesleys taught holiness.
>> Women didn't cut their hair, wear makeup, or pants.
>> They still don't.”
>>
>> I don’t know anyone following Wesley who doesn’t cut hair. Yes I agree
>> Wesly preached holiness and modesty. But not sure on the hair
>> specifically.
>>
>>
>> To me modesty means things like not showing too much, not wearing tank
>> tops, having nice manners, and being generous. I do wear some jewelry, 
>> but
>> I don’t get too fancy; I don’t think I overdue it. just a solid colored
>> bracelet or earrings.
>>
>> Ashley
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