[Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living

Fri Dec 2 23:56:03 UTC 2011

I think I'll get the NKJV as well.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 6:19 PM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living

KJV.
I also use the Amplified, and NKJV for study references.
I get the other translations, from Bible Gateway.
I also use the NLT, sometimes.
I avoid NIV, at all costs.
Blessings, Joshua

On 12/2/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Joshua,
> what version do you read?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 5:43 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living
>
> Paul wrote it in 1 Corinthians, 11:1/15.
> He told the women not to let a razor touch their head.
> If a woman prays, or prophesies with her head uncovered, it's a shame,
> but if a man covers his head, it's also a shame.
> The covering, is the hair.
> Paul says, it's a shame for a man to have long hair, but a woman
> should have long hair.
> This is the diference between the sexes.
> Nowadays, people want to do away with the separation.
> Now, there's a company that you can Google for yourself, that is
> selling Men's dresses, and something they call a "Man Skirt."
> All of this started, when women started to do these things, to try to
> be like men, and get equality.
> I believe women should be paid the same, and vote, own property, and
> have all of the rights they have in America, (don't get me wrong,) but
> God has certain things in his word, concerning dress,and appearance,
> where men and women should remain separate.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 12/2/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Jeanette, it does talk about hair though. Someone told me that This book
>> was
>> a letter Paul wrote to the
>> church of Corith.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeanette
>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 12:55 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living
>>
>> paul was not one and you should always read scriptures in context,m ths 
>> is
>> where we get all thisfalse doctrine when we take scriptures out of 
>> context
>> and out of the times they were written in, legalism is great at that.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 9:54 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living
>>
>>
>> Where Is Corinthians? New testament? I'll look up this scripture. But I
>> feel
>> I'll need to read all chapter 11 then. If not, scripture references are
>> often taken out of context.
>> This is basic. I know Jesus had 12 disciples. Was Paul one of them? I 
>> know
>> Peter was one.
>> Ashley
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 7:59 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] hair, modesty and Christian living
>>
>> Actually:
>> you know that in 1 Corinthians 11, that it says that your hair is your
>> crowning glory.
>> The apostle Paul taught this.
>> BTW, Crystal's hair was as long as always, in 2008, when we heard her
>> at the Grand Ole Opry.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 12/1/11, Amy Ragain <belovedconsecrated2god at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Joshua,
>>> you pointed out that Christal Gail didnt cut her hair but if you were a
>>> true
>>> fan of her's you convinently forgot to mention the fact that her
>>> oridganal
>>> reason for not cutting it had nothing to do with relidgous reasons.  she
>>> herself will even say that it was a prideful thing...her hair was viewed
>>> as
>>> her glory...and besides she eventually did cut it in the later days...is
>>> it
>>> still being modist to not cut your hair if you have so much pride in it
>>> that
>>> you refused to cut it??
>>> and if we aren't supposed to cut our hair would you also tell us that we
>>> must cover our heads also in order to remain modest??  where do you draw
>>> the
>>> line???
>>> do you whare shorts in the summer time? some ppl would say you are being
>>> imodest for doing so...how bout short sleeved shirts??   as I said, 
>>> where
>>> do
>>> you draw the line??
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 1, 2011, at 9:29 AM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Interesting  what Joshua said in two threads. I’m combining them as I
>>>> think hair/modesty is a separate thread from the mennonites or Wesley
>>>> thread.
>>>> I know the Bible teaches modesty but that can mean different things to
>>>> different people. Also, most women follow cultural norms so we can live
>>>> in
>>>> a secular society and make a living. So even if women didn’t wear 
>>>> pants,
>>>> they do in the 21th century because its business casual, more
>>>> comfortable
>>>> than skirts or dresses, and of course much easier to put on and wash.
>>>>
>>>> I can understand the makeup and not wearing pantss, but not cutting 
>>>> hair
>>>> is impractical.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else found the hair reference and know any women who don’t cut
>>>> hair?
>>>> Joshua said,
>>>> “Women didn't ever cut their hair, until the 1920's.
>>>> This was when "Bobbed Hair," became popular.”
>>>>
>>>> and then said
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> “The Church of England, was Calvinist, (reformed.)
>>>> The Wesleys taught holiness.
>>>> Women didn't cut their hair, wear makeup, or pants.
>>>> They still don't.”
>>>>
>>>> I don’t know anyone following Wesley who doesn’t cut hair. Yes I agree
>>>> Wesly preached holiness and modesty. But not sure on the hair
>>>> specifically.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To me modesty means things like not showing too much, not wearing tank
>>>> tops, having nice manners, and being generous. I do wear some jewelry,
>>>> but
>>>> I don’t get too fancy; I don’t think I overdue it. just a solid colored
>>>> bracelet or earrings.
>>>>
>>>> Ashley
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