[Faith-talk] "Let me tell you who Jesus is!"

Fri Jun 3 14:19:14 UTC 2011

i think we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this subject. 
jeanette
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From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
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> The Holy Spirit, is only a spirit.
> Spirits have a mind will and emotions, but that doesn't make a person.
> There has to be flesh and blood, to make it a person.
> Only Jesus took on flesh.
> The Holy Spirit gives us power to overcome sin, and anointing to carry
> on the ministry of Jesus.
> Jesus was the father in creation, the son in redemption, but now, he's
> the Holy Spirit in regeneration.
> Romans 8:9 calls the Holy Spirit, "The Spirit of Christ."
> That same spirit that dwelt in the fleshly body of Jesus, (the
> father,) now dwells in us as the Holy Ghost.
> When a believer repents, is baptized in Jesus's name, (Acts, 2:38,)
> and receives the Holy Ghost, (evidenced by tongues,) that's when Jesus
> comes in.
> That's why, if you don't have the Holy Ghost, you don't have all that
> you need, to live a victorious Christian life.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 6/3/11, Debbie Brown <63characters at comcast.net> wrote:
>> When people refer to the Holy Spirit as a "person," I think they are 
>> mostly
>> referring to will and mind and not flesh and blood.  It would be wrong to
>> think of the Holy Spirit as "miracle juice" that can be manipulated. 
>> When
>> we are talking about the nature of God, any metaphor will break down, so 
>> we
>> can study the Scripture, but I see no point in arguing about it.
>>
>> Debbie Brown
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] "Let me tell you who Jesus is!"
>>
>>
>>> Where's the body?
>>> John 4:24, "God is a spirit, (not a person,) and they that worship
>>> him, must worship him, in spirit and in truth."
>>> A person needs flesh and blood.
>>> God is not a person, but he manifested himself in flesh, (1 Timothy 
>>> 3:16.)
>>> Notice also, that verse where that voice spoke from Heaven, that he
>>> said, "This is my beloved son, in whom I'm well pleased."
>>> Notice, "in whom," not with whom.
>>> The Father dwelt in the son, and the son was in the father.
>>> That's where we get the term, "The Mighty God in Christ."
>>> Colossians, 2:9, and 1:19, tell us that the fullness of the Godhead is
>>> in Jesus Christ.
>>> The Holy Spirit isn't a person either, it's a spirit.
>>> The father and the holy spirit are not 2 separate spirits either.
>>> If one is holy, and the other is equal they have to share it.
>>> God said, "I don't share my glory with another."
>>> The Holy Spirit is refered to as the Spirit of Christ, in Romans, 8:9.
>>> The Holy Ghost is Jesus in your heart.
>>> Jesus was the father, manifested in flesh as the son, and now, he's
>>> the Holy Gost.
>>> The role of the son ceased at the resurrection.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 6/2/11, Barbara Hammel <poetlori8 at msn.com> wrote:
>>>> But God spoke from Heaven when John baptized Jesus.  "This is my 
>>>> beloved
>>>> son
>>>> with whom I am well pleased."
>>>> Barbara
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let every nation know whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall 
>>>> pay
>>>> any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, 
>>>> oppose
>>>> any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of
>>>> liberty.--John
>>>> F. Kennedy
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:43 PM
>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] "Let me tell you who Jesus is!"
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Notice, "I know Jesus is the Father!"
>>>> "I know Jesus is the Son!"
>>>> "I know Jesus is the Holy Ghost!"
>>>> "All these 3 are one!"
>>>> Jesus was the Father, in creation, the Son in redemption, and the Holy
>>>> Ghost in regeneration.
>>>> They are not 3 separate persons, they are one person, 3 manifestations.
>>>> To all of you, that believe in a trinity, go to www.leestoneking.com,
>>>> click on "Church History," and "The Oneness of God."
>>>> You'll see scriptures on the "Oneness of God," link.
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 6/2/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>     Good song.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Joshua Lester
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 8:53 AM
>>>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] "Let me tell you who Jesus is!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi, it's Joshua Lester.
>>>>> I posted the lyrics to this, as a reflection, a while back.
>>>>> Here's the video.
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXJzzBFn2Ug
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
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