[Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues

Mon Jun 6 16:11:06 UTC 2011

Also, Rex, tongues isn't the only evidence, of the Holy Ghost, but
it's the enitial physical, (notice,) physical evidence.
I'm not trying to debate, just clarifying a point.
Blessings, Joshua

On 6/6/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>     Amen.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>
> Rex, the tongues, is the evidence, for the unbelievers.
> It is also, to let you know, that you've received it.
> Again, I'm not trying to start a debate.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>> Well for one I appreciate all the comments and the discussion. I do
>> believe
>> that debate has its purposes. For instance, Paul debated with Agrippa and
>> in
>> Acts 26:28, I think it is, Agrippa tells Paul that he has almost convinced
>> him that Christianity is real. I think, however, that we need to be
>> mindful
>> of Proverbs 26:4-5 which tells us how to handle debate. We should not
>> debate
>> simply for the purpose of trying to exercise our beliefs over another. The
>> scriptures tell us to answer a fool according to his folly lest he become
>> wise in his own conceit and the scripture also tells us not to answer a
>> fool
>> according to his folly lest we become just like him.
>>
>> I'm not calling anyone a fool.
>>
>> It is clear that we are going to differ on opinions. Does this make one
>> right and the other wrong? No, I don't believe so.
>>
>> What I do believe though is that if we present a united front, we will win
>> more people to Christ than we will if we operate in dissention and
>> division.
>>
>> Is my salvation based on whether I believe in the trinity or not?
>> Absolutely
>> not. Is my salvation guaranteed on the basis of whether I believe in
>> speaking in tongues or not? Absolutely not.
>>
>> Is my salvation based on my belief in Christ Jesus and His atonement for
>> my
>> sins. You better believe it.
>>
>> We say that we don't support a principle if it is not clearly spelled out
>> in
>> the Bible. The world glosalalia is not written in the word. It is derived
>> from two words and was first used by Frederick William Farar in 1879. Does
>> this mean that speaking in tongues has no merit? I don't believe this is
>> the
>> case.
>>
>> I will ask one question here.
>>
>> We read that speaking in tongues is evidence of being filled with the Holy
>> Spirit. Evidence to whom? Does God need evidence that we are filled with
>> the
>> Holy Spirit? I think God already knows that. So, who is the evidence for?
>> If
>> we are not to be respecter of persons then who is the evidence for?
>>
>> I believe that speaking in tongues is a gift. I also believe that there is
>>
>> a
>> difference between speaking in tongues and speaking in an unknown
>> language.
>> Do I believe that a person who does not speak in tongues is not filled
>> with
>> the Holy Spirit? No, I don't believe that. I believe that some may not
>> have
>> the gift of tongues and are filled with the Holy Spirit. Could I be wrong?
>> Possibly. Could I be right? Possibly. Will I know the answer to these
>> questions when I see through a glass clearly. Yep.
>>
>> Peace and blessings!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:40 AM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>
>> Thank you Nikki.
>> I hope what I've said, doesn't come across, the way Ms Mentink, says it
>> does.
>> That's not the spirit I want to display.
>> I just believe, that if Kirt has the right to put his T I video, on
>> the list, this message should be allowed, as well.
>> I love everyone, on this list.
>> May God bless everyone of you, and remember, you can't lose for
>> winning, when God is on your side.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 6/6/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>     I have a voice and wish to be heard.
>>> Joshua, I believe, is merely informing, educating.
>>> When has he told you he has the only Truth?
>>> The Truth is in the Holy Bible and if you can't accept it, it's your own
>>> fault.
>>> Joshua gives Bible verses to prove a point, that's the way I see things
>>> here.
>>> I came on the list two months ago, looking for answers, but all that was
>>> here was argument and debate.
>>> I'm sorry, sounds a bit childish to me.
>>> I'm ready to unsubscribe if things don't lighten up.
>>> God bless you all.
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alan Wheeler
>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:25 AM
>>> To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>
>>> I second this, Linda.
>>> Joshua, please stop talking as though you, and only you know the whole
>>> truth. It really isn't conducive to peaceful, productive discussion on
>> this
>>> list.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Linda Mentink
>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:00 AM
>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>
>>> I don't have time to read all the messages that have come in.
>>> However, in first Corinthians 13 Paul says that toungues shall cease.
>>> Somewhere, maybe there, he said it is better to seek the greater gifts,
>>> or
>>> something like that. And, since they're gifts of the Spirit, they're
>>> given
>>> to us by God.
>>>
>>> Joshua, you have a hard time listening to others. Please stop trying to
>>> press your points. You think, or you come across like you think, that
>> you're
>>> the only one here who has the whole truth. I say again, please stop.
>>>
>>> Gotta go!
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>>
>>> Linda
>>>
>>>
>>>
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