[Faith-talk] Casting Crowns

[Joshua Lester]

Amen!
I second this.
God bless, and have a good day.
Blessings, Joshua

On 6/6/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
> just be happy they're not bickering, debating, or arguing.
> At least they're not talking about Metallica or Marilyn Manson.
> It's civilized. So be content and don't start.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Wheeler
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:23 PM
> To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Casting Crowns
>
> No offense, but would you please take the Casting Crowns/Casting Pearls
> discussion off-list as it isn't related to faith and blindness? I love
> talking about music as much as the next person, but this is straying away
> from the purpose of this list.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:14 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Casting Crowns
>
> Yes.
> Have you heard of the band?
> I haven't heard much from them, lately.
> They were pretty good.
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>> Matthew 7:6: Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast
>> ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet,
>> and turn again and rend you.
>>
>> Poor Stephen cast his pearls before swine and they bit and devoured him.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 1:05 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Casting Crowns
>>
>> Amen!
>> I've also heard of a band called Casting Pearls.
>> I don't know where they got that from, though.
>> They're lead by a former Bass player for the Newsboys, (my favorite
>> CCM
>> group.)
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>> Isn't the name Casting Crowns great? I was thinking sometime back
>>> about
>> the
>>> name and I thought how much better would life be if we cast crowns
>>> instead of casting stones?
>>>
>>> Isn't that an awesome thought?
>>>
>>> Hallelujah, God is great, all the time.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:56 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>
>>> I'm glad, we're on CCM, now.
>>> For some real Southern Gospel music, visit, www.thestampsquartet.com.
>>> They were Elvis's backup group, for a long time.
>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>
>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>> Woops, forgot to include this link.
>>>>
>>>> http://castingcrowns.com/content/touring
>>>>
>>>> You can see their tour dates there.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:20 PM
>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>
>>>> You got the right video, this time.
>>>> Casting Crowns needs to come back to Arkansas.
>>>> i'm also a David Crowder Band fan.
>>>> Too bad, they never come to Arkansas.
>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>
>>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I'll give it a try...I don't want something like this happening again!
>>>>>
>>>>> On 6/6/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>> Okay.
>>>>>> I accept your appology.
>>>>>> Youtube has been giving me fits, lately, as well.
>>>>>> I like the new accessible interface, tube.majestyc.net, better
>>>>>> than the regular Youtube.
>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I was trying to post a casting crowns video in the thread called
>>>>>>> "something to think about."  I honestly don't know how T I got in
>>>>>>> there but I am sorry.  It was a simple mistake.  Thanks for
>>>>>>> letting me know-I honestly did not mean for that to happen!  I
>>>>>>> sincerely appologize for anyone who saw that video, it's not what
>>>>>>> I wanted to put up.  Please understand it wasn't intentional at
>>>>>>> all.  Thanks, Joshua, for bringing this to my attention...I'll
>>>>>>> put up the video I was trying to put up soon, and I'll double-check
> it's the right one.
>>>>>>>   Thank you,
>>>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The thread was called, "Something to Remember."
>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>>>>>>   I never posted a video by T I.  Ever.  I honestly don't know
>>>>>>>>> where you're getting that from-I agree with you, that is
>>>>>>>>> absolutely aweful for this kind of list.  If it's not too much
>>>>>>>>> trouble, would you mind sending me a copy of the email with the
>>>>>>>>> video off-list?  If I got hacked, or made a mistake copying and
>>>>>>>>> pasting the link I was trying
>>> to
>>>>>>>>> send, I want to know!
>>>>>>>>>   God bless,
>>>>>>>>> Kirt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Joshua Lester <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On a thread you posted, you had a T I video, ("No Mercy.)"
>>>>>>>>>> T I, is in a prison, in Forest City, Arkansas, (yes,) my state.
>>>>>>>>>> Why should we house a drug addicted gangster rapper, convicted
>>>>>>>>>> of illegal possession, of guns, when he was arrested in CA?
>>>>>>>>>> I know, we're off topic, here, but It's awfull, that someone
>>>>>>>>>> would post a video, by a convicted rapper, on this list.
>>>>>>>>>> I know, who the moderators are, and I'm not trying to do their
>>>>>>>>>> job, but I was offended by that video.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Kirt Manwaring <kirt.crazydude at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua,
>>>>>>>>>>>   That came through as a T I video?  Really?  That's not the
>>>>>>>>>>> link
>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> put up...to my understanding, the link I put up was to one of
>>>>>>>>>>> my favorite religious artists, a Muslim man by the name of
>>>>>>>>>>> Dawud Wharnsby who sang a fantastic song about opening our
>>>>>>>>>>> minds and hearts up to others.  Is that not the video that
>>>>>>>>>>> came through?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey Joshua, I used to have the opinion that I was right and
>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>> else
>>>>>>>>>>>> just didn't understand the bible the way that I did. Hahaha.
>>>>>>>>>>>> What
>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> laugh.
>>>>>>>>>>>> God humbled me in a hard way and thank you Jesus my life has
>>>>>>>>>>>> not been the same sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry someone would say that to you. In my opinion,
>>>>>>>>>>>> that's messed up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> God must love me an awful lot, he chastises me quite a bit
>>>>>>>>>>>> and He says He chastises those He loves. Sometimes I wish He
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't love me
>> quite
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>>>>> as He does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Just kidding. There's nothing in this world equal to God's love.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, gotta go for real this time. Perhaps I can catch up
>> tomorrow
>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> later
>>>>>>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 11:27 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I appreciate your spirit, Brother Rex.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You aren't like the AG pastor, I had.
>>>>>>>>>>>> When I accepted this oneness belief, he yelled at me, and
>>>>>>>>>>>> told me that I wasn't saved.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I wish your spirit would rub off, on that preacher.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah you're right, it was way out of order and it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer for in god's time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua I think that in Acts 2 the principle being talked
>>>>>>>>>>>>> about there is xenoglossy. They were amazed because they
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could understand what
>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> said in their native language and they understood that the
>>> speaker
>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> normally speak in that language.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please note that I will always use words like "I believe"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> or "I think"
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> opposed to making a statement indicating that I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely
>>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> say. A lot of this stuff is a mystery and is not to be
>> understood
>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> this time. I don't have a problem with being ignorant of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things because I know that I will know as I am known in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> appointed time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember there is nothing wrong with debate.  The problems
>>>>>>>>>>>>> arise when we
>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to usurp our beliefs over another. I believe in stating a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> point
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> moving
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on. If someone doesn't believe as I do, nothing I say or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> present
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subsequent to the initial statement or presentation is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> going to change a person's position or belief.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I may firmly believe in something but does this mean I'm right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> does and sometimes it doesn't. One thing is for sure
>>>>>>>>>>>>> though, The Holy
>>>>>>>>>>>> spirit
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not wrong and will lead us into all truth and knowledge
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the desire and heart to seek after that truth.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> One other thing and I must get back to work and earn my
>>>>>>>>>>>>> keep
>> LOL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Our testimonies will do more to teach than will our ideas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and notions and opinions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We may argue with another's points of view but it's hard to
>> argue
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> testimony.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Later yall.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peace and blessings
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:59 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> It's all in the spirit, in which it is done.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If someone isn't used to it, it will scare them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I'm saying is, that the people were amazed, in Acts, 2,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when the people spoke in tongues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That was how they knew.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> You won't find that craziness, in an Apostolic church.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> What that woman did, was out of order.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My pastor has preached on order in the church.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might buy into the statement that speaking in tongues is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence to oneself that one has the gift of tongues. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean it's kind of
>>>> hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> argue
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with that logic. If one speaks in tongues then one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> definitely
>>> has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence before himself or herself. I don't believe that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oneself that he or she is filled with the Holy spirit. I
>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense of peace and a sense of discernment, a sense of
>>> compassion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to grow in god's word, etc, are evidence to oneself that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one is filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holy Spirit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will tell you this: my wife's daughter had never been in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a Pentecostal church before. The first day she was in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> church, someone
>>>> prayed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>> her,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking in tongues. This did nothing to foster a belief
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> unbeliever.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, she no longer wants to go back to this church. It
>>> scared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did nothing to bolster her belief in God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She thinks badly of the church now and the woman who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prayed in tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>> over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her did more damage than good.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The woman was more impressed with her abilities and her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gift
>>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> her
>>>>>>>>>>>>> desire
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to bring this girl into a relationship with Christ Jesus.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> She failed to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discernment and as a result, my step daughter believes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> less
>> than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when she entered the doors of the church.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that the woman who prayed in tongues over her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> judgment as she had already been warned that my step
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daughter
>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to the principle of speaking in tongues and that the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> principle
>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> would scare her.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was filled with the Holy Spirit in a church service back
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in early 2005.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was in a praise and worship service and I was filled while
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> stage.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know I was filled because something in my heart changed. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also felt
>>>>>>>>>>>> drunk
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at the time and the whole service was, and still is, hazy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in my mind.
>>>>>>>>>>>> But,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it was many months from then when I began to speak in tongues.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 10:34 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rex, the tongues, is the evidence, for the unbelievers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is also, to let you know, that you've received it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, I'm not trying to start a debate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Rex Leslie Howard, Jr. <rex at littlelaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well for one I appreciate all the comments and the
> discussion.
>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that debate has its purposes. For instance, Paul debated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with Agrippa
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acts 26:28, I think it is, Agrippa tells Paul that he has
>>> almost
>>>>>>>>>>>>> convinced
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> him that Christianity is real. I think, however, that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need
>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mindful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of Proverbs 26:4-5 which tells us how to handle debate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We
>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> debate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simply for the purpose of trying to exercise our beliefs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> over another.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scriptures tell us to answer a fool according to his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> folly
>> lest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>>>> become
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wise in his own conceit and the scripture also tells us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not to answer a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fool
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> according to his folly lest we become just like him.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not calling anyone a fool.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It is clear that we are going to differ on opinions. Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this make one right and the other wrong? No, I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe so.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I do believe though is that if we present a united
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> front,
>>>> we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>>>> win
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more people to Christ than we will if we operate in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dissention and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> division.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is my salvation based on whether I believe in the trinity
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>> not?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Absolutely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. Is my salvation guaranteed on the basis of whether I
>>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> speaking in tongues or not? Absolutely not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is my salvation based on my belief in Christ Jesus and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> His atonement for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sins. You better believe it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We say that we don't support a principle if it is not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clearly spelled
>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Bible. The world glosalalia is not written in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> word. It
>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> derived
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from two words and was first used by Frederick William
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Farar
>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1879.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this mean that speaking in tongues has no merit? I don't
>>> believe
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> case.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will ask one question here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We read that speaking in tongues is evidence of being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled
>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spirit. Evidence to whom? Does God need evidence that we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are filled with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Holy Spirit? I think God already knows that. So, who is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the evidence
>>>>>>>>>>>> for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we are not to be respecter of persons then who is the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> evidence for?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I believe that speaking in tongues is a gift. I also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> believe
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference between speaking in tongues and speaking in an
>>>> unknown
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> language.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I believe that a person who does not speak in tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filled
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Holy Spirit? No, I don't believe that. I believe that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some may not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the gift of tongues and are filled with the Holy Spirit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Could
>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Possibly. Could I be right? Possibly. Will I know the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer
>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> questions when I see through a glass clearly. Yep.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peace and blessings!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Joshua Lester
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 9:40 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Nikki.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope what I've said, doesn't come across, the way Ms
>> Mentink,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> says
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's not the spirit I want to display.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just believe, that if Kirt has the right to put his T I
>>> video,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the list, this message should be allowed, as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I love everyone, on this list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> May God bless everyone of you, and remember, you can't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lose
>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> winning, when God is on your side.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/6/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     I have a voice and wish to be heard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua, I believe, is merely informing, educating.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When has he told you he has the only Truth?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Truth is in the Holy Bible and if you can't accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it,
>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>> own
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fault.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua gives Bible verses to prove a point, that's the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way I
>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I came on the list two months ago, looking for answers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> here was argument and debate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sorry, sounds a bit childish to me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm ready to unsubscribe if things don't lighten up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> God bless you all.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Alan Wheeler
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:25 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I second this, Linda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua, please stop talking as though you, and only you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whole
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> truth. It really isn't conducive to peaceful, productive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> list.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Linda Mentink
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 8:00 AM
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Speaking in Tongues
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't have time to read all the messages that have come
> in.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, in first Corinthians 13 Paul says that toungues
>> shall
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cease.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somewhere, maybe there, he said it is better to seek the
>>>> greater
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gifts,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something like that. And, since they're gifts of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spirit, they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> given
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to us by God.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua, you have a hard time listening to others. Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop trying to press your points. You think, or you come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> across like you
>>>> think,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the only one here who has the whole truth. I say again,
>> please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gotta go!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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