[Faith-talk] My Take

Kirt Manwaring kirt.crazydude at gmail.com
Mon May 2 03:02:44 UTC 2011


Linda,
  If you want to talk about the Book of Mormon, please email me
off-list.  Most of those revisions have been gramatical-punctuation,
commas, and the like.  A few things have been added to clarify what
was already there-which, given our belief of moddern revelation, isn't
really unusual.  And, yes, there have been a few changes to clarify
the meaning of the original text...if anyone has any questions about
this, feel free to email me off-list.  I've had quite enough public
controversy for a while.  :)  Also, as has been pointed out
previously, there are verses in the Bible to support the view that
Christ's gospel can be accepted after death-a lot of Christians, not
just Mormons, hold to that view.
  God bless,
Kirt

On 5/1/11, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Hi Curt,
>
> The Bible says otherwise concerning accepting Christ after death.
> Please read Luke 16:19 through to the end of the chapter; John
> Chapter 3, and Hebrews 9:27. All religeons do not lead to eternal
> life in Heaven. There are many false teachers and many false
> doctrines being taught. The Bible is the only book that is inspired
> by God; see 2 Timothy 3:16.
>
> By the way, the book of Mormon has been revised since its first
> writing, as in changed, updated.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Linda
>
> At 09:06 PM 5/1/2011, you wrote:
>>To all,
>>   First off, I stand by all the opinions I've posted here thus far.  I
>>do think Christ is the only way...but I think all the other wonderful
>>divinely inspired religions out there prepare people to accept him
>>after death.  This one can be argued every which way (and it has
>>been), so I'll let it rest.  And, as to the Muslim question- I don't
>>regret anything I said, only the confrontational manner in which I
>>said it.
>>   So to anyone I offended or insulted in the heat of my emotions- I am
>>sincerely sorry.  We all have the right to have our opinions treated
>>with respect and dignity.  Nobody should feel afraid to speak their
>>mind because of fear their opinions may be insulted or belittled, and
>>I think I came a little too close to crossing that line.  Please
>>accept my sincere appologies...but also please understand that it
>>isn't fair or right to insult or mock others, simply for believing
>>differently.  I absolutely do not regret standing up for my dear
>>Muslim friends-I'd do it again and I'm sure I'll probably have to many
>>more times.  But I didn't have to make it personal, and I think I made
>>that mistake.  So, I genuinely am sorry for any venom I added to the
>>list, and I certainly didn't mean to mock anyone personally.
>>   God bless,
>>Kirt
>>
>>On 5/1/11, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> > Hi Laura,
>> >
>> > yes, it is a scary thought.
>> >
>> > Well, I take time from the computer to bond with my digital player!
>> > Smile.
>> >
>> > At 06:59 AM 5/1/2011, you wrote:
>> >>Hi Linda -- I like your take... I was wondering why your voice had not
>> >> been
>> >>heard in a while with all this discussion.
>> >>Actually there are over a billion Islamic persons in the world, so even
>> >>saying that only a third of them are out to get us is a scary thought.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>----- Original Message -----
>> >>From: "Linda Mentink" <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>> >>To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >>Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:54 PM
>> >>Subject: [Faith-talk] My Take
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Hi all,
>> >>
>> >>Well, you all have been busy the last few days. I've had the computer
>> >>off since Tuesday night, and I turned it on this afternoon to find
>> >>all your posts.
>> >>
>> >>Now, let me say from the get-go that I'm an Independent Baptist, and
>> >>am in a church where we use only the KJV during our worship services.
>> >>According to the Bible, the heart is deceitful, and desperately
>> >>wicked (Jeremiah 17:9), and our rightiousness is as filthy rags
>> >>(Isaiah 64:6 I think). So, none of us is good enough to make it to
>> >>heaven. Only by the grace of God through Jesus Christ, the one and
>> >>only Mediator between God and man, can we become heirs with Christ.
>> >>Ephesians tells us, For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that
>> >>not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man
>> >>should boast. When Christ lives in us, we want to do good works; but
>> >>our works won't do anything to earn us a place in heaven.  If
>> >>everyone was guaranteed a place, there would be no need for a
>> >>Saviour, and His sacrifice would be cheapened.
>> >>
>> >>In the Old Testament, there were many who were the type of Christ,
>> >>but they were under the law, and had to sacrifice a lamb, or whatever
>> >>they could afford, such as a dove or pigeon. Christ became that Lamb,
>> >>and paid the price for our sin. Most people will not be in heaven;
>> >>narrow is the way, and few there are who walk in it.
>> >>
>> >>We are not to judge others, but we can know many things about them if
>> >>we know our Bibles, and compare ourselves and others to what our Lord
>> >>has given us--His example in Christ. There is none righteous, no, not
>> >> one.
>> >>
>> >>Just as there are many different Christian churches, there are many
>> >>different degrees of Muslem, and so forth. Only about one-third of
>> >>the Muslems are radical Muslems, those who will do what they believe
>> >>they must to irradicate infidels from off the face of the earth. They
>> >>believe that they will rule, and the infedels are Christians and
>> >>Jews; therefore, they want to wipe Israel (the little Satan) and the
>> >>United States (the big Satan) off the map. Also, the Koran keeps
>> >>changing, and not all English translations are what the Arabic really
>> >>says. Pay attention to the news, and you will understand more. And,
>> >>read the book I suggested.
>> >>
>> >>There is much more that I could say, but I'll stop with this: this
>> >>list is for the discussion of faith, but please take care not to
>> >>argue with each other. And, please change the subject lines! Smile.
>> >>
>> >>Blessings,
>> >>
>> >>Linda
>> >>
>> >>
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