[Faith-talk] King james / audio Bibles

Ashley Bramlett bookwormahb at earthlink.net
Wed Nov 16 17:08:10 UTC 2011 

Paul,
Does these recordings describe the city, what life was like, clothes, etc?
Who narrated them? As we all know, the bible was written hundreds of years 
ago, and I don't always know where places they reference are
and where they are today or if they even exist. Palestine is next to Israel 
but its not a country, and I'm not sure where the Gaza strip is, a source of 
controversy as to who owns it.

Are you saying these narrations are on old records? What kind? Is it the big 
records which are 33 1/3 speed?
I actually still have a record and cassette players!

I could call the CRS and see if they have them if I know the magazine, title 
of articles and narrator.
You have a good question too. Not sure where those are.

Ashley


-----Original Message----- 
From: Paul
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 5:58 AM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] King james / audio Bibles

Ashley and everyone else.  I don't know whether or not this is accessible
but, beginning in 1970 and going through 1975, what is now Christian Record
Services for the Blind, formerly Christian Record Braille Foundation,
presented in great detail an around-the-world recorded anthology by its then
editor, the late C.G. Cross and his wife Jessie.  He devoted three programs,
almost three hours, to his visit to the state of Israel, which was very
interesting and truly brought the listeners to what was then known as
Christian Record Talking Magazine a clear picture of that land.  Fortunately
I have it on the old hard records, but have no way of getting copies to you.
As for Nazareth, as Brother Cross reported then, this community existed with
a population then of 4,000 Christians.  And as to geography, it mentions
three places in Luke 2 that I'm curious about where they are today.  They
are Iturea, Trachonitis and Abilene.  Does anyone know where they are today
and their modern names? Thanks.  Your Christian brother, Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] King james / audio Bibles


> So then, the KJ version is  early modern english and the NKJ  is a modern 
> english translation.
> I don't understand "thee's" and "thou's" so glad that was done away with.
> I agree with the translator of it that
> archaic language is how to understand but unfamiliar vocabulary can be 
> learned. Such reading gives us a sense of what early writers meant as they 
> wrote the Bible.
>
> So  what resources do you all use for vocab or Bible 
> interpretation/knowledge? For instance, I don't want to admit this but 
> will. I cannot picture what the Tabernacle is when I read about Moses or 
> what anointed means.
>
> Also, I'm wondering about the geography. Where are these places in the 
> Bible? I know that some of it is now Iraq and some of it is Israel. Today, 
> is there such a place called Nazerith where Jesus went?
> I'd certainly like some tips so I can better understand and picture the 
> bible setting.
>
> Thanks
> Ashley
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Doris and Chris
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 8:24 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] King james / audio Bibles
>
> Yes, the NKJV is a modern English translation. It
> mainly updated the archaic language and word
> forms and did away wiht the "thee's" and
> "thou's"  and also updated some of the language
> whose meaning has changed over the centuries.
> However, the majority of the words and language
> of the origional KJV was maintained, one of the
> philosophies being that unfamiliar vocabulary
> could and should belearned while archaic language
> and word forms  are hard to understand.
>
> If you can find the  preface , translation notes
> and such online, it will make for quite
> intersting reading. Bible Gateway should have at
> least some of this as should Thomas Nelson as the publisher of the NKJV.
>
> You guys are so blessed with the variety of English translations!
>
> hth
>
> Doris
>
>
>
>
> At 08:11 PM 11/15/2011 -0500, you wrote:
>>Hi, Wow if it was 1982 its recent. I know the New king james was not 
>>really rewritten but updated/translated with modern words. Early modern 
>>English still used thou, thee, and thy. I recall from reading Shakespeare. 
>>Early English sounds like a different language; I listened to it in 
>>intercultural communication. It sounds very foreign. Middle English we 
>>recognize more of the words we have now and familiar grammar and syntax. 
>>Okay so if King James is early modern English, what is the New King James 
>>written in? Standard English we know today? If it was copyright 1982 I 
>>suspect that. it was translated to words we know today. If I remember 
>>correctly, before translated to English in the Middle Ages, the Bible was 
>>in Latin. Theerefore scholars and monks could only read it. Then I think 
>>Greek and German came next. Then Guttenberg copied the bible with his 
>>invention of the printing press. Prior to that, monks transcribed then by 
>>hand and they were so valuable that they were either locked, stored, or 
>>chained up to prevent it from being stolen. Thanks for explaining. Ashley 
>>I found King James hard to understand, but may give New king james a try 
>>since you say it was -----Original Message----- From: Doris and Chris 
>>Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 7:34 PM To: Faith-talk,for the discussion 
>>of faith and religion Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] King james / audio Bibles 
>>Copyright for the nkjv is with Thomas Nelson 1982. It was not really 
>>"written" as much as it was tranlsated and revised, which is a process 
>>that usually takes several years. The English used in the KJV or 
>>Shakespeare is not Middle but early modern English. When reading Middle 
>>English, you will not understand nearly as much as with Shakespearean or 
>>KJV English. Even for me as a non-native speaker, the kjv and Shakespeare 
>>are quite readable and enjoyable.The difficulty does not lie as much with 
>>the readability of the language as in some changes in usage that make some 
>>passages unclear. additionally, while at the top of scholarship at their 
>>time, more modern translations have access to earlier manuscripts, i.e. 
>>earlier to to the time of the early church and the earliest versions of 
>>Christian writings, which by some scholars are considered more reliable as 
>>there was less of a chance of transcription   errors being made than with 
>>later versions. Finally, modern translationscan take into accounts the 
>>most recent findings of archeology and Biblical scholarship. For example, 
>>while the original RSV (Revised Standard Version 1947/52) is still 
>>considered one of the best scholarly and most widely accepted 
>>translations, it did not - could not - take into accounts recent 
>>discoveries as the Dead Sea scrolls as those had just been discovered in 
>>the late 1940's. hth and God Bless, Doris At 07:08 PM 11/15/2011 -0500, 
>>you wrote: >Do you know when the New king James was written? The king 
>>James was written >in 1600s I think and uses middle English, kind of like 
>>reading Shakespeare. >Ashley -----Original Message----- >From: Paul Sent: 
>>Monday, November 14, 2011 10:58 PM To: Faith-talk,for the >discussion of 
>>faith and religion Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] audio Bibles >Ashley and all, 
>>a portable Bible that many have recommended is something >called the 
>>BibleCourier available from the Lutheran Braille Evangelism >Association 
>>in White Bear Lake, Minnesota. You can call them for prices >and versions 
>>at 651-426-0469 or go to their website at http://www.lbea.org. >As to the 
>>New King James Version, it still retains some of the language of >the old 
>>KJV but with some modern renderings which make the meaning of some >words 
>>clearer.  For instance the word "prevent" actually means precede, and
>> >there are other similar modifications.  But all pronouns referring to
>>God, >The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are capitalized as in the KJV for 
>>two main >reasons, one to show respect to our Almighty God and also to 
>>clarify their >meaning which could be made more confusing without the 
>>capital letters.  In >Braille it's available from Braille Bibles 
>>International >(http://www.braillebibles.org. It is also available from 
>>Bible Gateway >and, I believe, even a BibleCourier version of the nKJV is 
>>available.  Hope >that helps. Paul ----- >Original Message ----- From: 
>>"Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> >To: "for the discussion of 
>>faith and religion Faith-talk" ><faith-talk at nfbnet.org> Sent: Sunday, 
>>November 13, 2011 5:20 PM Subject: >[Faith-talk] audio Bibles > Hi all, >
>> > Where can I get audio bibles? I am >thinking either CD or Mp3 format. >
>>I also thought there was something that >contained the bible in one device
>> > called a Pocket Bible or something like >that. > I have the Niv in
>>braille. I̢۪d like the Good News Bible. Also, >anyonyone read > the New 
>>King James? I know the King James is in older >English, but do not > know 
>>if the New King James is is a more modern >version or is easier to > 
>>understand. > I might want that version too. Not >sure. > > > Everyone 
>>else can have a bible in their purse and  its >portable. Braille > is not 
>>that portable though. But audio would be. > > >Ashley > > 
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