[Faith-talk] Rick Warren Books

[Joshua Lester]

Rick Warren, and Joel Ostine pride themselves on the fact that they
don't preach against sin, or mention the cross, or the blood.
They also want the hymnals thrown out, and they want the so-called
worship to be comparable to a rock concert.
That's why CCM is so popular.
This stuff is destroying the church!
Ostine said, "The cross, and the blood is too offensive."
I have three words for those wolves!
Get over it!
Blessings, Joshua

On 11/17/11, Alan Wheeler <awheeler65 at windstream.net> wrote:
> Oh wow! That's unbelieveable. No cross? That's like saying an airplane with
> no engine can fly.
>
>
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> He, and Joel Ostine both went on Larry King Live, and said that Jesus was
> one of many ways to Heaven.
> That's pathetic!
> Warren also wants us to replace the words, "saved," and "lost," with
> "churched," and "unchurched."
> To him, church membership alone is what saves us!
> That's also pathetic, because church membership doesn't save anyone, it's
> the blood of Jesus, which BTW, Warren doesn't want us to mention either.
> No cross, no blood, no Gospel!
> The Bible says, "Without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of
> sin," none!
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 11/17/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> i'd have to say i agree with you, i think he has the idea like many
>> folks today that the more enclusive we are the more folks we will bring to
> Christ.
>> i did not like his paraphrasing and i was very uncomfortable with some
>> of his teachings. i am one though who does not like going with
>> whatever fad is going on in the church so i kind f waited til the hype
>> about the books was over.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Linda Mentink" <mentink at frontiernet.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 6:47 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Rick Warren Books
>>
>>
>> I would not recommend them, if you are a Christian who wants to stick
>> with the Bible. He has some very ecumenical ideas, and the Bible says
>> that Christians should be separate from the world. He uses many
>> passages from a paraphrase of the Bible, rather than a translation.
>> And, why should we be purpose-driven? We should be in God's will, and
>> that does not drive!
>>
>> We studied The Purpose-Driven Life in the church I attended in
>> Wisconsin before moving here to Nebraska. I purchased it on CD, and
>> wished I hadn't; but I needed it for Sunday School. I left it there!
>> So, yes, read them before you buy them.
>> Of course, if you read them from BARD, you can keep them if you want.
>> I was uncomfortable with a lot of his teachings and approaches. That
>> wass over 7 years ago now, so I don't remember what particularly. I'm
>> conservative and "old-fashioned", and I didn't like his modern ways.
>>
>> Just my two cents.
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> At 08:18 PM 11/16/2011, you wrote:
>>>they are both available on the bard website, you should go read them
>>>before
>>>
>>>buying them, at least that is my opinion, do not take someone else's
>>>opinion unless you know that person well, jeanette ----- Original
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>>>Warren Books > Hi all, > > What are Rick Warrenâ?Ts books about: The
>>>Purpose-driven Life and > Purpose-Driven Church? > Would you recommend
>>>them?  I am considering buying them if they are in > accessible form.
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