[Faith-talk] thanks for the responces i had

Sun Nov 20 02:51:05 UTC 2011

And, I would think, with a church that size, and a special pastor for 
congregational care and support, the church could be of more help to 
someone in Andrew's circumstances.

If I were Andrew, I'd find a place of my own in a nearby town where I 
could be around others, like in an apartment building. I'd find a 
different church as well, one where I could be ministered to, as well 
as be involved, even in some small way; and where there would be 
someone willing to mentor me. His church is not doing what a church 
should, and, a female pastor, when the Bible says that a pastor 
should be the husband of one wife, etc.?

However, Andrew needs to be willing to do something for himself, 
rather than being pampered and helpless. Until he is, we can do 
nothing, and even our prayers will be for naught. It's 
pathetic!!!  We've given him suggestions, and also suggestions of 
people to contact. In other words, we've given him some tools, but 
fear, or maybe laziness, or who knows what, are preventing him from 
doing something about his situation. Methinks there's more than 
blindness involved here!

Blessings,

Linda

At 07:52 PM 11/19/2011, you wrote:
>true; and some of us suggested ways of transit like asking 
>neighbors; you could also put an ad in the nearest town newspaper 
>for a driver. People can't help if they don't know your need
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Barbara Hammel
>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 7:38 PM
>To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] thanks for the responces i had
>
>But, Andrew, some of us do understand.  We understand that you live in a
>rural area and that you depend on your parents to get you to church and that
>It's the only one around?
>What does your pastor mean by you needing to grow?  You're right in that
>we're all growing and that we need mentors in our lives.
>Barbara
>
>
>
>
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>any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose
>any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty.--John
>F. Kennedy
>-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Edgcumbe
>Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 9:51 AM
>To: Faith-talk
>Subject: [Faith-talk] thanks for the responces i had
>
>Hi all
>
>First off I will say what the pastor  had said to me.
>She is kind of a prayer councilor.
>Well she did say not to  in a round about way not to worry about
>serving until you grow more type of things.
>Well she  she said something reguarding my inadcic inaddicquic or
>whatever if i am not feeling  i am not serving.
>
>Well I have comments about what she said. First about the growing part
>well to certain extend I had been trying to grow spiritually. It is
>as if you guys expect me to do it alone and things is the approach and
>things. I believe that somebody older should mentor the younger person
>like it was done in old testament things like that.
>I don't think not going to church is the best idea the bible says not
>to forsake the assembly.
>
>I need somebody else in my life that will just pray for and with me
>and things of that nature.
>
>
>
>As far as  the growing part  is everybody's  is groing or we are
>growing all life and things. If the church is expecting  me to be
>perfect that will never  happen on this side of heaven relistically.
>I almost  or thought after wards  well you  need to help me with that
>not just say i need to grow more that is what i thought about saying.
>About the inatiquoacy part well I am not exactually wanting to help
>others to help myself I just want to help others  for god's sake in
>practical ways or different ways.
>
>
>
>Anyways As far as lonelyness and the depression part of things and
>This is and I hope you don't mind Paul from baltamore is Paul has
>struggled with lonelyness  before himself.  and maybe he still does
>even though he has not said anything about it lately.
>
>You just can't  tell somebody just to snap out of it over night and
>things. You just can't  just tell somebody  as ano only resort to go
>to god only when you are lonely Internet sites are nice email groups
>are nice but as Paul says person to person or in person is much much
>nicer.  and even on the phone is much nicer than email groups and
>being able to hear somebody's voice.
>  You guys  need to put yourself in my shoes and  things not that you
>are the same way but you need to imagine that you are in the same way
>i am picture yourself living in a rural area  Every person is from  a
>different back ground and a different walk of life  even on this group
>and also each person has a personality of their own.
>Even each rural area is different from one another in what it has and
>doesn't have things like that.
>You have to just think before you are saying.
>and i don't think allot of people do they just say more more and more.
>
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