[Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

[Joshua Lester]

Predestination is for the church, as a group, not individual predestination.
I have read writings by both Calvinists, and Quaker preachers, (I came
out of the Quaker church.)
I find Wesley's beliefs supported with scripture, and in my oppinion,
Wesley, and George Fox line up more with scripture, than Calvin.
Blessings, Joshua

On 11/28/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> gee joshua here we go again with you judging folks and telling us who is
> wrong and who is right, you are blessed that the folks on here who do not
> agree with you don't call your favorite teachers such things, once again you
> do not understand the calvinist teachings, you are taking one scripture and
> trying to create doctrine out of it or listening to folks and taking their
> word for it, you need to read all scripture in context, once saved always
> saved is a very missunderstood doctrine as well, if a person is saved and
> back slides permanently then maybe they were never actually saved, and the
> idea of predestination is supported by just as many scriptures as your
> beliefs are supported by, so it is up to each of us as Christians who have
> the Holy Spirit dwelling is us to read, pray and listen to teachings and
> discern what we believ to be true, it is overwhelmingly irritating to have
> you a very very young person and a very very young Christian to sit here and
> tell us all what is true and what is not true, you are not the end all be
> all authority, and you just keep insulting folks and judging them based on
> what you ahve been taught, others might think you are wrong and missinformed
> you know? be kind and gentle in spirit, you can share your beliefs but as
> has been said before on this list, quit telling us what is a fact based on
> your own personal beliefs
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
>
> John Calvin was a Frenchman, that taught many false teachings.
> Here's a quote from Calvin, that turns me away from his doctrine.
> "There are babies in Hell, the size of the span of a man's hand."
> He believed in predestination.
> Most of your baptist friends, (mainly those of Charles Stanley's
> persuasion,) believe in some form of predestination.
> One form is Unconditional Eternal Security, which, (if you were a
> Wesleyan Methodist,) you would have heard the phrase, Once Saved
> Always Saved.
> This means, no matter what you do, you can still go to Heaven if you
> were once saved.
> This means, that there's no such thing as a backslider.
> You can smoke, drink, fornicate, and do everything in the world, and
> still make Heaven, while you're in sin.
> Whatever happened to holiness, and separation?
> I miss old time Holiness, and Wesleyan preaching!
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Jeannette,
>> Yes. When I heard him, he doesn't have a rambling style like some bible
>> teachers.
>> He also backs up what he says with tons of scripture as well as the
>> historical
>> context. That is what is appealing. I also listen to other preachers of
>> the
>> Baptist faith and nondenominational ones as well on our Christian radio
>> station. I like them for various reasons. People such as Charles Stanley
>> and
>> David Jeremiah are just a few of them.
>> So he is a Calvinist. I didn't know that before this list; the radio
>> station
>> did not say, so I thought he might be nondenominational.
>> What does that mean? I know there was a guy named something Calvin after
>> the
>> Protestant reformation. But its been so long since I studied the Middle
>> ages
>> and Renaissance that I forget what exactly Calvin did or what he founded.
>> He
>> was British is what I recall.
>>
>> What is this  monthly teaching on CD about? Is it free?
>> The website did have some articles from the magazine, but I don't believe
>> it’s
>> the full magazine.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeanette
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:11 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>
>> i have heard that the classes are accessable, if not i am sure they would
>> work to see that they could be, R.C. Sproul is amazing, i get his monthly
>> teaching on cd and enjoy it a lot, he is amazing and so knowledgable in
>> the
>> Bible, he is  of course a Calvinist, and all of his teachings are backed
>> up
>> by tons and tons of scripture in context with historical info  included, i
>> do get the monthly magazine which is easy to read with kurzweil.
>> ligonier.org is how i think it is spelled, let me go look.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Jeanette said in the magazine thread
>>>
>>> you can also go on ligoneir.org to read the Tabletalk magazine by R. C.
>>> Sproul if he is your cup of tea.
>>>
>>> I think this is the wrong spelling as that site did not work. Anyone know
>>> his site? I was on it one time but forget its address; I linked from one
>>> website to his.
>>> He is good; I listen to his study broadcast called Renewing your mind.
>>> I don’t think the Tabletalk magazine is fully online; but better some
>>> than
>>>
>>> none. The articles are the current issue, but it’s a sampling of the hard
>>> copy magazine.
>>>
>>> Also has anyone taken his bible online classes? Are they accessible? I
>>> don’t
>>> have time to do it now, but might someday and was curious to know if it
>>> worked with screen readers.
>>>
>>> Ashley
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