[Faith-talk] music, was Church of Christ singing
Joshua Lester
jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu
Tue Nov 29 02:12:03 UTC 2011
"Thy Word," by Amy Grant is another favorite.
I also enjoy Keith Greene.
Here's the site, where his wife has continued selling his music.
http://www.lastdaysministries.org
Blessings, Joshua
On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Don't know what happened to Twila Paris. I also enjoy Sandi Patty.
>
> Ashley
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:23 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
>
> Those songs are classics!
> Whatever happened to Twila Paris?
> She was one of my favorite singers.
> I also love to hear Sandy Patty, and Larnelle Harris.
> Ryan:
> I'd like for you to get "I've Just Seen Jesus," by Sandy Patty, and
> play it tomorrow night.
> Thanks, Joshua
>
> On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> I love those songs you mentioned. I just listened to "here I am to
>> worship," and "Open my Eyes Lord," and Shine, Jesus Shine" today.
>>
>> I assume the CC is Christian contemporary.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joshua Lester
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:06 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
>>
>> There are 2 ladies in Casting Crowns.
>> They only sing, on select songs, but one also plays a mondolin.
>> I like CCM, as long as I can understand the words, and as long as they
>> have verses and a chorus.
>> "As the Deer," (You alone are my heart's desire,) is one of my favorite
>> songs.
>> "Here I am to Worship," and "Heart of Worship," are others I lovel.
>> Blessings, Joshua
>>
>> On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Karen,
>>> No. Did they make this Christmas CD for last year?
>>> I ask because wow CDs often come out via year.
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: karin
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:44 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
>>>
>>> I like most of those Wow C.D.'s and have quite a few of them. Have you
>>> heard the Wow christmas C.D.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ashley Bramlett
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 1:29 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
>>>
>>>
>>> praise and worship songs are contemporary Christian songs. I like them
>>> too.
>>> They come out out on the Wow cds.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: karin
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:18 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
>>>
>>> Some Christian rock is great. It's like all music there is some good
>>> some
>>> bad. I have favorite songs and I like certain types of christian music
>>> most
>>> preferrably praise and worship songs. Ashley, do y ou sing in your
>>> church
>>> music.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Ashley Bramlett
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:43 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
>>>
>>>
>>> ddon't agree. The contemporary Christian music is in all keys; some
>>> high,
>>> others medium or low.
>>> Their guys, ladies, or a mix. For instance Casting Crowns is men and
>>> they
>>> sing in a low key.
>>> Also Mercy Me is another group and I did not hear high notes there. I
>>> don't
>>> really have a favorite group, but I do have favorite songs.
>>> I cannot always match the high pitch of the ladies, but I'm not the
>>> best
>>> singer anyway. Singing is definitely for everyone.
>>> That is why there are usually different keys to sing in and in a
>>> choir
>>> there
>>> are different parts; some do soprano, others alto or baritone.
>>> But what I cannot stand is so called Christian rock; that to me has
>>> to
>>> go
>>> and I do not find that at all sounding Christian; and the instruments
>>> are
>>> so
>>> loud that you cannot hear the lyrics.
>>> Christian rock has come about to appeal to young adults like my age.
>>> But
>>> it
>>> certainly does not appeal to me!
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ryan Kwaak
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:42 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
>>>
>>> Hey Debbie if I might capitalize on that last comment about singing
>>> being for everyone. Yes gospel singing should indeed be for everyone,
>>> but most contemporary worship or 7-11 songs are intended for high
>>> sopranos. I've found that if I were singing southern gospel I can
>>> find
>>> a harmony that fits my range even though I may be in the middle
>>> between baritone and bass. But at the church I won't be attending
>>> when
>>> I move out, they sing contemporary music which is way harder for me
>>> to
>>> fit in with. Joshua is right; 7-11 songs have got to go.
>>>
>>> On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> > Hi Paul,
>>> >
>>> > I went to the second link wich is gbn .
>>> > How do you get to the music? I clicked on archive and there is a
>>> link
>>> for
>>> > signing their guest book and bible studies. I didn't see the
>>> music,
>>> > unless
>>> > its oon one of the videos in the archive.
>>> >
>>> > Ashley
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Paul
>>> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 7:51 AM
>>> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Shape note singing
>>> >
>>> > If you want to hear Church of Christ congregational singing, you
>>> can
>>> hear
>>> > them on http://www.christiantuner.com under their "a capella"
>>> channel.
>>> > Additionally, if you want to view congregational singing from them
>>> go
>>> to
>>> > http://www.gbntv.org. Paul
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Debbie Brown" <63characters at comcast.net>
>>> > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:34 AM
>>> > Subject: [Faith-talk] Shape note singing
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Shape note singing is still done in the nonistrumental Churches of
>>> Christ.
>>> > Many of the older people know nothing else. You can get computer
>>> programs
>>> > that generate shape notes, but I forget the name of the one that
>>> some
>>> of
>>> > our
>>> > song leaders used.
>>> >
>>> > the good thing about that kind of music is that singing is for
>>> everyone.
>>> > It
>>> > is a command in the Bible to sing, and it is not meant for just a
>>> > professional choir, but for everyone. I find people mumbling along
>>> with
>>> > an
>>> > organ not very inspiring.
>>> >
>>> > Debbie Brown
>>> >
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 6:06 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] shape note significance was An Addition
>>> to
>>> > thePoston Claude Ely from Joshua
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi,
>>> > I found out that shaped note singing came from the north and
>>> migrated
>>> down
>>> > south and was more popular in southern churches. So when we think
>>> of
>>> > shaped
>>> > note, we think of southern gospel and southern groups doing it;
>>> when
>>>
>>> I
>>> > researched many groups came up in the south such as the Wiregrass
>>> Sacred
>>> > Harp singers in Alabama.
>>> >
>>> > Ashley
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Joshua Lester
>>> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:20 PM
>>> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] shape note significance was An Addition
>>> to
>>> > thePost
>>> > on Claude Ely from Joshua
>>> >
>>> > Most Sacred Harp singing is done in Shaped Note style.
>>> > Southern Gospel was the only Shaped note style, but shaped notes
>>> have
>>> > disappeared, lately.
>>> > This style came into Southern Gospel, through the Church of God,
>>> > (Cleveland, TN,) (a Pentecostal group.)
>>> > Blessings, Joshua
>>> >
>>> > On 11/27/11, Paul <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> Because of the strong influence on the Christian life of the South
>>> by
>>> the
>>> >> Baptists, most probably it was that denomination, but not
>>> necessarily
>>> >> Southern Baptists as there are quite a few faith communities that
>>> use
>>> the
>>> >> name Baptist. At least that's what I heard. Paul
>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> >> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> >> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 5:04 PM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] shape note significance was An Addition
>>> to
>>> >> thePost
>>> >> on Claude Ely from Joshua
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> So Joshua, are you saying that some Quaker groups sang Sacred Harp
>>> music?
>>> >> Also, is all Sacred Harp music in the shape note form? I thought I
>>> heard
>>> >> Sacred harp that was not Sacred Harp sometime.
>>> >> Maybe shaped notes can be part of Sacred Harp, but does not have
>>> to
>>> be.
>>> >> What types of music has shaped note singing? I am not sure its
>>> around
>>> in
>>> >> modern churches, except maybe some traditional southern churches.
>>> When
>>> I
>>> >> studied music history, my dad did not know what shaped note music
>>> meant
>>> >> and
>>> >> he is from the south. We are white though; and perhaps it’s a
>>> black
>>> >> church
>>> >> thing.
>>> >> Since one part is singing the scale of Doe, ray, me etc, its
>>> obvious
>>> >> when
>>> >> one hears shaped note singing. The other people sing the words.
>>> >>
>>> >> Its my understanding that Sacred Harp singing is 1. With no
>>> instruments;
>>> >> not
>>> >> sure how to spell the word for that. 2. It uses the Sacred Harp
>>> Hymnal.
>>> >> 3.
>>> >> The leader of the group is in the center. and 4. The singing
>>> sounds
>>> >> country-like with a nazal-like voice.
>>> >> It was common in southern churches, but I don't know what
>>> denomination.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ashley
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Joshua Lester
>>> >> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 9:26 PM
>>> >> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely
>>> from
>>> >> Joshua
>>> >>
>>> >> The Quakers vary from group to group.
>>> >> Our group was affiliated with the Central Yearly Meeting of
>>> Friends,
>>> >> out of West Field, Indiana.
>>> >> We used the same hymnal as the Church of the Nazarine.
>>> >> We, in the United Pentecostal Church International use a hymnal
>>> >> called, "Sing Unto the Lord," which is not, the Sacred Harp.
>>> >> In the Appelachian Mountain area, they sang Sacred Harp, and
>>> Shaped
>>> >> Note style music.
>>> >> Blessings, Joshua
>>> >>
>>> >> On 11/26/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >>> Joshua,
>>> >>> Am I correct that quakers song sacred harp music?
>>> >>> Are you also saying that your church uses the Sacred Harp hymnal?
>>> >>> I thought Pentecostals used their own hymnal. Perhaps, though its
>>> just
>>> >>> your
>>> >>> preference to like
>>> >>> older songs originating in other religious sects.
>>> >>> Ashley
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From: Joshua Lester
>>> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 8:08 PM
>>> >>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely
>>> from
>>> >>> Joshua
>>> >>>
>>> >>> We don't do Sacred Harp conventions, or "All Day Singing
>>> Schools,"
>>> >>> anymore.
>>> >>> Some of your Oneness Pentecostals, (like myself,) still sing the
>>> older
>>> >>> songs, and use the hymnal.
>>> >>> We have a diferent hymnal, than the other groups.
>>> >>> Our hymns aren't the songs of the 17, and 1800's.
>>> >>> Our hymns are Southern Gospel, from Dad Speer, Albert E Brumley,
>>> etc.
>>> >>> This, and the Black Gospel choir music is what I'd prefer, for
>>> Sunday
>>> >>> Morning worship service.
>>> >>> The "711" songs have got to go!
>>> >>> Blessings, Joshua
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 11/26/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> >>>> Paul,
>>> >>>> Thanks for telling us that the Loc issued religious albums to
>>> the
>>> >>>> public.
>>> >>>> How many songs on this album?
>>> >>>> I might see if I can get some. Unfortunately, the general public
>>> isn't
>>> >>>> too
>>> >>>> interested in old fashioned gospel, particularly with no
>>> instruments
>>> >>>> backing
>>> >>>> the singers, so you can't find these old styles of music at
>>> Christian
>>> >>>> music
>>> >>>> stores. Ever noticed that Christian music sold at stores is
>>> often
>>>
>>> a
>>> >>>> group
>>> >>>> of
>>> >>>> singers with instruments; mostly c contemporary music. Its good
>>> music
>>> >>>> IMO;
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I
>>> >>>> like the Wow worship cds, but I like old fashioned music too.
>>> >>>> This might explain why they did not convert Lps and cassettes to
>>> modern
>>> >>>> day
>>> >>>> Cds.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I certainly heard of Sacred Harp singing; It is pretty.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> It would be neat to hear a hymn done by lining.
>>> >>>> I've heard of that and think I first heard of that old technique
>>> in
>>> >>>> music
>>> >>>> class. It’s a technique, that to my knowledge, is not practiced
>>> in
>>> main
>>> >>>> line
>>> >>>> churches, and non denominational churches usually read lyrics
>>> from
>>> a
>>> >>>> screen
>>> >>>> rather than a hymnal.
>>> >>>> Now I'm real curious about this record! I think lining would be
>>> a
>>> great
>>> >>>> way
>>> >>>> to include everyone, not just those who can read and follow a
>>> hymnal.
>>> >>>> Its not just blind people that cannot read it, its others with
>>> learning
>>> >>>> disabilities or those who cannot hold a book open and read fast
>>> enough
>>> >>>> to
>>> >>>> sing for various reasons. Lining was a practice for a long time.
>>> It
>>> was
>>> >>>> used
>>> >>>> because not everyone could read a hymnal or if the church did
>>> not
>>> have
>>> >>>> a
>>> >>>> hymnal.
>>> >>>> I've seen Sacred Harp singing on Youtube.
>>> >>>> I wonder if southerners still sing and have sacred harp
>>> conventions?
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> I'll make note of the other albums.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Take care.
>>> >>>> Ashley
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>> From: Paul
>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:50 PM
>>> >>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely
>>> from
>>> >>>> Joshua
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Well, I can't rightly tell you about everything on the LP, but
>>> here's
>>> a
>>> >>>> sample. There is an example of lining in which the song leader
>>> recites
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>> first line of a hymn, in this case "Hosanna, Jesus Reigns," and
>>> then
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>> congregation sings it. Then the song leader recites the second
>>> line
>>> >>>> and
>>> >>>> then the congregation sings that also, and so on until the song
>>> is
>>> >>>> finished.
>>> >>>> This recording was originally made by Elder LaSeer (not sure of
>>> >>>> spelling)
>>> >>>> in
>>> >>>> a Primitive Baptist Church somewhere in western North Carolina
>>> in
>>> 1961.
>>> >>>> There is also another Primitive Baptist song entitled "The Lord
>>> Will
>>> >>>> Provide," recorded by Elder Bradley in Lone Pine KY in 1971.
>>> Judging
>>> >>>> by
>>> >>>> the
>>> >>>> acoustics it sounds like it might have been recorded in a tent
>>> or
>>> an
>>> >>>> outdoor
>>> >>>> venue. Then there is a song sung by 12 bearded Old Order Amish
>>> people
>>> >>>> from
>>> >>>> Colona, Iowa near Cedar Rapids, originally recorded in 1943 by
>>> Alton
>>> S.
>>> >>>> Bach
>>> >>>> and Addison Bach. That's just a sample.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> As to other religious albums (when the LOC issued them to the
>>> general
>>> >>>> public), there is one entitled "Children of the Heavenly King:
>>> >>>> Religious
>>> >>>> Expressions of the Central Blue Ridge," originally issued in
>>> 1981
>>> and
>>> >>>> featuring Primitive Baptist and other rural expressions of one's
>>> >>>> Christianity in areas of southwestern Virginia and northwestern
>>> North
>>> >>>> Carolina, encompassing the Virginia counties of Carrol, Grayson
>>> and
>>> >>>> Floyd
>>> >>>> and, in North Carolina, Ash and Wilts. There is also an album
>>> of
>>> >>>> Alabama
>>> >>>> Sacred Harp Singing, which has nothing to do with the stringed
>>> >>>> instrument
>>> >>>> but is a unique style of a capella singing. This was one of the
>>> early
>>> >>>> collections of the late Alan Lomax, originally recorded in
>>> Birmingham
>>> >>>> in
>>> >>>> August 1942 during the 37th Alabama Sacred Harp Singing
>>> Convention.
>>> >>>> Ditto
>>> >>>> for the song by Brother Claude Ely, although they used guitars
>>> and
>>> at
>>> >>>> least
>>> >>>> one mandolin. For those of you who might be members of a chat
>>> >>>> community
>>> >>>> called Out of Sight, have a working microphone and soundcard,
>>> would
>>> be
>>> >>>> delighted to go into one of the audio chatrooms over there
>>> during
>>> the
>>> >>>> day
>>> >>>> when nothing is going on. Just let me know in a reasonable
>>> amount
>>> of
>>> >>>> time,
>>> >>>> and would be more than glad to let you hear this admittedly
>>> unique
>>> and
>>> >>>> little-known form of singing. Your Christian brother, Paul
>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>>> >>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> >>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:19 PM
>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely
>>> from
>>> >>>> Joshua
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Paul,
>>> >>>>> I haven't heard of this album or singer.
>>> >>>>> I didn't know the Library of congress issued religious music! I
>>> know
>>> >>>>> they
>>> >>>>> did folk tunes and some by the shakers and African American
>>> >>>>> spirituals,
>>> >>>>> but I didn't know about the religious music. Of course some
>>> folk
>>> tunes
>>> >>>>> and
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> spirituals are somewhat religious.
>>> >>>>> What else is on "Religious songs, congregational and
>>> ceremonial"
>>> >>>>> album?
>>> >>>>> Is
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> it just
>>> >>>>> Claude's congregation? Based on the title of the song, I assume
>>> its
>>> >>>>> music
>>> >>>>> is by a harp, and other songs probably instrumental; after all
>>> back
>>> >>>>> then
>>> >>>>> they did not have the fancy base drums, electric guitars, and
>>> sound
>>> >>>>> mixing
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> we do for todays Christian bands.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Older songs are only on old fashioned technology, i.e. cassette
>>> or
>>> >>>>> records.
>>> >>>>> Do you know if the library of congress still has this album?
>>> Maybe
>>> we
>>> >>>>> can
>>> >>>>> buy a copy from them?
>>> >>>>> I'll also check the internet for any songs by this individual.
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Ashley
>>> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>>>> From: Paul
>>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 4:58 PM
>>> >>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely
>>> from
>>> >>>>> Joshua
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Well, Joshua, the only way I can get it to you, along with the
>>> other
>>> >>>>> selections from that album, is by snail mail and via cassette
>>> as
>>>
>>> I
>>> >>>>> don't
>>> >>>>> have any way of burning a CD from the album itself. If you
>>> would
>>> give
>>> >>>>> me
>>> >>>>> your address off list, will make you a copy and send it to you,
>>> albeit
>>> >>>>> via
>>> >>>>> snail mail, and I'm sure we know how slow that can be. But, as
>>> I've
>>> >>>>> always
>>> >>>>> heard it said, better that way than not at all. Paul
>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> >>>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
>>> >>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> >>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 3:36 PM
>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude Ely
>>> from
>>> >>>>> Joshua
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the information!
>>> >>>>>> I'm interested in this recording.
>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 11/26/11, Paul <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>> If anyone here has a copy of the album "Religious Songs,
>>> >>>>>>> Congregational
>>> >>>>>>> and
>>> >>>>>>> Ceremonial," issued by the Library of Congress as part of
>>> their
>>> >>>>>>> bicentennial
>>> >>>>>>> celebration in 1976, Claude Ely's congregation is featured on
>>> the
>>> >>>>>>> song
>>> >>>>>>> "Little David, Play On Your Harp." The undersigned has that
>>> album.
>>> >>>>>>> Paul
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