[Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

Tue Nov 29 02:26:05 UTC 2011

couldn't have said it better myself
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

Joshua,
I don't know about the rest of the folks, but I'm getting kind of annoyed.
First, you sent 15 messages to the list in like 2 hours or less! I'm guilty
of that too, but I spoke on multiple subjects. Second, I don't know how you
have time to know all these bible teachers and preachers; as a full time
student, I was busy with reading and term papers. For those of us who don't
know these names you ramble off, it would be nice if you said who they were.
What are they affiliated with? I like what Jeannette said about not
following one doctrine or teacher blindly.
Without some context or background, names are just names.
Thirdly, you rattle off names and ideas that have nothing, I mean nothing,
to do with in this Case RC Sproul.
It would be nice if you at least changed subject lines.
I don't like it when people start going on in ten different directions under
a thread, that was not meant for that. In this case, I wanted to find out
who and what RC Sproul had to offer! Also I tried to tie it to accessibility
and blindness wich, remember
is what this list was for: faith and blindness!

We can share facts like Jeanette did: that RC Sproul is a Calvinist in the
Presbeterian church what he thinks.
But inserting judgemental facts or opinions like saying he is a false
teacher is not right. BTW, I don't think God decides who goes to hell before
we are born though.

I think we should hear different preachers and decide from there.
To quote myself.
I'm pretty open to faith. I don't believe in what every preacher says. Nor
do I subscribe to any one doctrine associated with one church branch. I grew
up Methodist, but I think now I'm just a Christian and listen to several
preachers.

Being vrain washed is not good; be careful.
Ashley
-----Original Message----- 
From: Joshua Lester
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:41 PM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

Also, John Hagee has some great insight.
I don't agree with all of his doctrine, but his messages about Israel,
and about prophesy are second to none.
I respect Brother Wilkerson, and I really loved reading his book about
Mickey Cruz.
Blessings, Joshua

On 11/28/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
> i donate money to the r.c. sproul ministry so i get the magazine and the 
> cd,
> the magazine is free.
> r.c. sproul is presbyterian by denomination, david jeremiah and charles
> stanley are southern baptist, calvinism among other things supports the 
> idea
> of predestination, a very very missunderstood concept by many who object 
> to
> it, there are many other things they teach and the teachings are on the
> website, you might go to the website and get the phone number and call 
> them
> asking about materials for understanding calvinism or at least get the 
> info
> so you can make the decision based on scripture about what you think of 
> it,
> there are many scriptures used to defend this belief as there are many to
> disagree with it.
> i believe that r.c. sproul teaches many good things, i am nt one who 
> follows
> a teacher completely or blindly, each of us have the ability asChristians 
> to
> discern through the Holy Spirit what we believe is the truth from the 
> Bible
> and the teachings we listen to. i do not thinkit is kind or even 
> beneficial
> of folks to insult or judge the folks who teach, we each have to make our
> own decisions but to follow a denomination or teacher blindly and 
> completely
> is a very scary thing, this is what leads to cultish activity in my humble
> opinion, i listen to sproul david jeremiah, charles stanley as well as 
> david
> wilkerson who passed this year but is on the timesquarechurch.com website 
> as
> well as his son Gary Wilkerson who si our pastor and you can go download 
> or
> listen to free mp3 sermons on our church website thespringschurch.com
> i also like charles swindall and he is also on the radio and another guy
> John Mcarthur who is also on the radio, they also have websites whre you 
> can
> hear their sermons for free and read some of their material for free
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
>
>> Jeannette,
>> Yes. When I heard him, he doesn't have a rambling style like some bible
>> teachers.
>> He also backs up what he says with tons of scripture as well as the
>> historical
>> context. That is what is appealing. I also listen to other preachers of
>> the Baptist faith and nondenominational ones as well on our Christian
>> radio station. I like them for various reasons. People such as Charles
>> Stanley and David Jeremiah are just a few of them.
>> So he is a Calvinist. I didn't know that before this list; the radio
>> station did not say, so I thought he might be nondenominational.
>> What does that mean? I know there was a guy named something Calvin after
>> the Protestant reformation. But its been so long since I studied the
>> Middle ages and Renaissance that I forget what exactly Calvin did or what
>> he founded. He was British is what I recall.
>>
>> What is this  monthly teaching on CD about? Is it free?
>> The website did have some articles from the magazine, but I don't believe
>> it’s the full magazine.
>>
>> Ashley
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jeanette
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:11 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>
>> i have heard that the classes are accessable, if not i am sure they would
>> work to see that they could be, R.C. Sproul is amazing, i get his monthly
>> teaching on cd and enjoy it a lot, he is amazing and so knowledgable in
>> the
>> Bible, he is  of course a Calvinist, and all of his teachings are backed
>> up
>> by tons and tons of scripture in context with historical info  included, 
>> i
>> do get the monthly magazine which is easy to read with kurzweil.
>> ligonier.org is how i think it is spelled, let me go look.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
>> To: "for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:22 PM
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Jeanette said in the magazine thread
>>>
>>> you can also go on ligoneir.org to read the Tabletalk magazine by R. C.
>>> Sproul if he is your cup of tea.
>>>
>>> I think this is the wrong spelling as that site did not work. Anyone 
>>> know
>>>
>>> his site? I was on it one time but forget its address; I linked from one
>>> website to his.
>>> He is good; I listen to his study broadcast called Renewing your mind.
>>> I don’t think the Tabletalk magazine is fully online; but better some
>>> than none. The articles are the current issue, but it’s a sampling of 
>>> the
>>>
>>> hard copy magazine.
>>>
>>> Also has anyone taken his bible online classes? Are they accessible? I
>>> don’t have time to do it now, but might someday and was curious to know
>>> if it worked with screen readers.
>>>
>>> Ashley
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