[Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

Wed Nov 30 00:17:08 UTC 2011

Esperanto, as one other person on this list can attest to, is an 
international language created in 1887 by Dr. L.L. Zamenhof of Byalistok, 
Poland.  The good eye doctor noticed that in his city there were basically 
four language quarters: Russian, Polish, German and Yiddish.  There were 
frequent quarrels between the four language groups.  In his day if one 
entered, say, the Polish quarter of town, you had to speak Polish, and woe 
be you if you could speak, say, German.  So, as a kind of bridge builder, 
Dr. Zamenhof created the language called Esperanto, "the hoper." It gained 
widespread popularity along all strata of European society up to about World 
War II, but after that its popularity declined.

There is a fascinating book about the history of the Esperanto movement 
among the blind written by the late Joseph Kreitz of Germany which I don't 
have the time nor the space to go into.  Suffice it to say that the basic 
philosophy about the language, especially if you are into correspondence or 
communication with someone from another country who does not know your 
native language, is that as you get to know that person and he/he gets to 
know you, regardless of how the governments in the respective countries 
feel, that both of you would be less and less inclined toward hatred of one 
another, all because of Esperanto.  The Hadley School for the Blind taught 
it for many years, but unfortunately that along with other foreign language 
courses have been dropped from their curriculum, probably because of lack of 
interest.  For those interested in a more detailed examination of the 
subject such as grammar and its ease of learning, would be more than glad to 
correspond with anyone off list at oilofgladness47 at gmail.com, as I don't 
want to take up too much space on this list concerning a subject that 
admittedly is off topic.  As we would say in closing in Esperanto: Via 
samideano Kristana, Paulo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site

What is Esperanto?
Thanks, Joshua

On 11/29/11, Paul <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well, Ashley, thanks for the compliment, but it was really the Lord that
> gave me the gift of knowing something about alternative resources of
> Christian literature.  Now if someone could just suggest a source where I
> could get an audio Bible in Esperanto, that would be very much 
> appreciated.
> I went to the obvious sites such as Bible Gateway, the United Bible
> Societies in Germany and even the website of the International League of
> Christian Esperantists and, although they have La Sankta Biblio (The Holy
> Bible) in print, nothing in audio.  I even checked Aurora Ministries 
> without
> success.  It's not that I need it, but in my work as the co-editor of the
> quarterly magazine Espero Kristana (Christian Hope), it would be very 
> useful
> rather than translating Bible passages from English into Esperanto.  Oh
> well, until the Lord tells me of a site will just continue to use the
> English version and hope that our readership will still receive sound
> Christian teaching in what the undersigned, Elizabeth Keller from Zurich
> Switzerland and our contributing writers have to offer.  Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 4:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
>
> Paul,
> Thanks; that is unusual to be allowed to keep books.
> I'll get their catalog. You are an encyclopedia on alternative resources.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:06 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
> Care Ministries of Starkville MS has a few of R.C. Sproul's books, though 
> I
> rightly can't give you their names.  Don't rightly know their Website but
> their toll-free number is 1-800-336-2232.  They send out books on cassette
> at the standard speed and they are a unique ministry in that, if you like
> the books you get from their catalog which you can order from them, that 
> you
> are most welcome to keep them, but you'd better have a lot of storage 
> space.
> Call and request a catalog of books be sent to you.  Again, their services
> are absolutely free.  Paul
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
>
> Jeanette,
> So who is John Mcarthur?
> Interesting we like the same pastors. I don't hear Chuck Swindoll on radio
> though because his program is played early morning with no later 
> broadcast.
> However, I did hear him on the internet in his broadcast archives; he 
> sounds
> good.
>
> You're kind of like me then in that you take several teachings and figure
> out where you belong from there.
> The issue with religion and politics is most people don't think through
> something; its easier to just follow a preacher or political leader
> without going to the source they got their info from or doing some 
> analysis.
> I get my news from multiple sources so I can get a more balanced view; 
> same
> with Christianity.
>
> Now, you say NLS does not produce any of RC Sproul's
> books. Too bad. Have you found another source for his books in audio?
> Thanks.
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeanette
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 9:11 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
> i am a Christian, i belong to know denomination, the church i go to is
> nondenominational, i lhave always liked r.c. sproul very much, didn't say 
> i
> agree with everything he teaches but i really do respect him as well as
> david jeremiah and charles stanley, the nls library has some of charles
> stanley's books on tape, one on digital, none of charles swindalls stuff 
> on
> digital but a bunch of it on tape, none of r.c. sprouls stuff at all, they
> do also have some of john mcarthurs as well, i grew up methodist, was
> baptised in the baptised church, attended presbyterian with my first 
> husband
> and now go to the church i talked about earlier, our pastor has all of his
> sermons available for download as mp3s on the website for free and 
> seromons
> by other visiting pastors if you are interested.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
>
> Jeanette,
> That is right. RC Sproul is a well respected teacher. He has helped author 
> a
> study bible and I think he is a consultant to revising the bible as well.
> What is your faith? I'm not sure what church follows Calvinist teaching.
>
> Ashley
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeanette
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 4:48 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
> you are so missinformed Joshua, my opinion of course, these are 
> respectable
> teachers whether you agree with their interpretation or not, none of us 
> have
> slammed any of those you hold in high standing whether we agree with them 
> or
> not, we ahve not called them false teachers as some have, r.c. sproul has
> some good teachings and there are many many folks who agree  with his
> Calvinist teachings, a little more mainstream than some you know, he has
> some very accessable teaching tools on his website and many of his things
> are available for a minimal donation from time to time, i own many things 
> he
> has done and enjoy his radio teachings quite a bit. jeanette p.s. that
> having been said, i do not agree with all his teachings
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
>
> okay; I didn't see much wrong with him, but I do disagree with some
> fundamentalist pastors on tv which I won't go into.
> I'm curious to know if anyone used his sources online, if they're
> accessible.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joshua Lester
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 3:29 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] R.C. Sproul's magazine and site
>
> RC Sprowel is a Calvinist!
> He believes in predestination, Unconditional Eternal Security, and he
> also has his prophesy, (Bible prophesy,) way off.
> He, and Hank Hannigraf are false teachers.
> Also, my oppinion, (I must always say.)
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Jeanette said in the magazine thread
>>
>> you can also go on ligoneir.org to read the Tabletalk magazine by R. C.
>> Sproul if he is your cup of tea.
>>
>> I think this is the wrong spelling as that site did not work. Anyone know
>> his site? I was on it one time but forget its address; I linked from one
>> website to his.
>> He is good; I listen to his study broadcast called Renewing your mind.
>> I don’t think the Tabletalk magazine is fully online; but better some 
>> than
>> none. The articles are the current issue, but it’s a sampling of the hard
>> copy magazine.
>>
>> Also has anyone taken his bible online classes? Are they accessible? I
>> don’t
>> have time to do it now, but might someday and was curious to know if it
>> worked with screen readers.
>>
>> Ashley
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