[Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing

Paul oilofgladness47 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 30 21:59:58 UTC 2011


As I mentioned previously, Mennonites and Primitive Baptists don't use 
instruments in their singing.  And by Mennonites I'm referring to the 
conservative branch.  There are a few other branches I know of, one of which 
is the Mennonite Brethren and, of course, the various branches of the Amish 
Church.  The Amish were a breakaway group from the Mennonites led by a 
renegade person named Jacob Amman.  Paul
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing


Karen,

Who are these bands? Southern gospel?
These are the ones and I did not know about them.
What do you mean by  back in that era?


Truth
Petra
White Heart
Caedmon's Call
Imperials
Harvest
Carman

I think I have heard Take Six.
So many praise bands; I don't keep track of who sings what usually.

As to Church of Christ, can anyone comment from that denomination? We have a
lot of Baptists on list, I think.
In my research so far, I found out that
they do not use instruments as Joshua pointed out. Further they do not use
incense or candles. Any singing is done by voice only.
That can be pretty if people sing on key. I don't know much about that
church. It’s the first I've heard of that does not use instrumental music as
part of worship.
Quite interesting.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: karin
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 3:23 PM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing

There is also another band back in that era and they are called truth.
Petra did retire too soon.  Blessings to you
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joshua Lester
  To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 5:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing


  Petra was a good group.
  They retired too soon!
  Another favorite was White Heart.
  I also love Caedmons Call, and Take Six.
  My cousin, Mark Farrow wrote a song for the Imperials, (Old Buddha.)
  Blessings, Joshua

  On 11/29/11, karin <karinjhar at att.net> wrote:
  > There is also a group called the Imperials and a group called Harvest.
Have
  > you also heard of petra?  They are very good.
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Joshua Lester
  >   To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 3:09 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
  >
  >
  >   Point of Grace is originally from Arkansas.
  >   They only come here, for a women's conference, so I can't attend,
(LOL.)
  >   Carman is another one of my favorites.
  >   Back to the Church Of Christ's singing, there's a group called Glad,
  >   that sings A Capello Christian music.
  >   They're pretty good!
  >   Blessings, Joshua
  >
  >   On 11/29/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
  >   > thanks. I'll check for a wow christmas 2011 then.
  >   >
  >   > -----Original Message-----
  >   > From: karin
  >   > Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 1:51 PM
  >   > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
  >   >
  >   > I do not know if the wow christmas is the first wow christmas or
not.
  > But
  >   > this one was compuled this year.
  >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   From: Ashley Bramlett
  >   >   To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 5:00 PM
  >   >   Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   Karen,
  >   >   No. Did they make this Christmas CD for last year?
  >   >   I ask because wow CDs often come out via year.
  >   >   Ashley
  >   >
  >   >   -----Original Message-----
  >   >   From: karin
  >   >   Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:44 PM
  >   >   To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >   Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
  >   >
  >   >   I like most of those Wow C.D.'s and have quite a few of them.
Have
  > you
  >   >   heard the Wow christmas C.D.
  >   >     ----- Original Message -----
  >   >     From: Ashley Bramlett
  >   >     To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >     Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 1:29 PM
  >   >     Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >     praise and worship songs are contemporary Christian songs. I
like
  > them
  >   >   too.
  >   >     They come out out on the Wow cds.
  >   >
  >   >     -----Original Message-----
  >   >     From: karin
  >   >     Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 2:18 PM
  >   >     To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >     Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
  >   >
  >   >     Some Christian rock is great.  It's like all music there is some
  > good
  >   > some
  >   >     bad.  I have favorite songs and I like certain types of
christian
  > music
  >   >   most
  >   >     preferrably praise and worship songs.  Ashley, do y ou sing in
your
  >   > church
  >   >     music.
  >   >       ----- Original Message -----
  >   >       From: Ashley Bramlett
  >   >       To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >       Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:43 PM
  >   >       Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >       ddon't agree. The contemporary Christian music is in all keys;
  > some
  >   >   high,
  >   >       others medium or low.
  >   >       Their guys, ladies, or a mix. For instance Casting Crowns is
men
  > and
  >   >   they
  >   >       sing in a low key.
  >   >       Also Mercy Me is another group and I did not hear high notes
  > there. I
  >   >     don't
  >   >       really have a favorite group, but I do have favorite songs.
  >   >       I cannot always match the high pitch of the ladies, but I'm
not
  > the
  >   > best
  >   >       singer anyway. Singing is definitely for everyone.
  >   >       That is why there are usually different keys to sing in and in
a
  > choir
  >   >     there
  >   >       are different parts; some do soprano, others alto or baritone.
  >   >       But what I cannot stand is so called Christian rock; that to
me
  > has to
  >   >   go
  >   >       and I do not find that at all sounding Christian; and the
  > instruments
  >   >   are
  >   >     so
  >   >       loud that you cannot hear the lyrics.
  >   >       Christian rock has come about to appeal to young adults like
my
  > age.
  >   > But
  >   >     it
  >   >       certainly does not appeal to me!
  >   >
  >   >       Ashley
  >   >
  >   >       -----Original Message-----
  >   >       From: Ryan Kwaak
  >   >       Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:42 PM
  >   >       To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >       Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Church of Christ singing
  >   >
  >   >       Hey Debbie if I might capitalize on that last comment about
  > singing
  >   >       being for everyone. Yes gospel singing should indeed be for
  > everyone,
  >   >       but most contemporary worship or 7-11 songs are intended for
high
  >   >       sopranos. I've found that if I were singing southern gospel I
can
  > find
  >   >       a harmony that fits my range even though I may be in the
middle
  >   >       between baritone and bass. But at the church I won't be
attending
  > when
  >   >       I move out, they sing contemporary music which is way harder
for
  > me to
  >   >       fit in with. Joshua is right; 7-11 songs have got to go.
  >   >
  >   >       On 11/28/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
wrote:
  >   >       > Hi Paul,
  >   >       >
  >   >       > I went to the second link wich is gbn .
  >   >       > How do you get to the music? I clicked on archive and there
is a
  >   > link
  >   >     for
  >   >       > signing  their guest book and bible studies. I didn't see
the
  > music,
  >   >       > unless
  >   >       > its oon one of the videos in the archive.
  >   >       >
  >   >       > Ashley
  >   >       >
  >   >       > -----Original Message-----
  >   >       > From: Paul
  >   >       > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 7:51 AM
  >   >       > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >       > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Shape note singing
  >   >       >
  >   >       > If you want to hear Church of Christ congregational singing,
you
  > can
  >   >     hear
  >   >       > them on http://www.christiantuner.com under their "a
capella"
  >   > channel.
  >   >       > Additionally, if you want to view congregational singing
from
  > them
  >   > go
  >   >   to
  >   >       > http://www.gbntv.org.  Paul
  >   >       > ----- Original Message -----
  >   >       > From: "Debbie Brown" <63characters at comcast.net>
  >   >       > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
  >   >       > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
  >   >       > Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:34 AM
  >   >       > Subject: [Faith-talk] Shape note singing
  >   >       >
  >   >       >
  >   >       > Shape note singing is still done in the nonistrumental
Churches
  > of
  >   >     Christ.
  >   >       > Many of the older people know nothing else.  You can get
  > computer
  >   >     programs
  >   >       > that generate shape notes, but I forget the name of the one
that
  >   > some
  >   >   of
  >   >       > our
  >   >       > song leaders used.
  >   >       >
  >   >       > the good thing about that kind of music is that singing is
for
  >   >   everyone.
  >   >       > It
  >   >       > is a command in the Bible to sing, and it is not meant for
just
  > a
  >   >       > professional choir, but for everyone.  I find people
mumbling
  > along
  >   >   with
  >   >       > an
  >   >       > organ not very inspiring.
  >   >       >
  >   >       > Debbie Brown
  >   >       >
  >   >       > ----- Original Message -----
  >   >       > From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
  >   >       > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
  >   >       > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
  >   >       > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 6:06 PM
  >   >       > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] shape note significance was An
  > Addition to
  >   >       > thePoston Claude Ely from Joshua
  >   >       >
  >   >       >
  >   >       > Hi,
  >   >       > I found out that shaped note singing came from the north and
  >   > migrated
  >   >     down
  >   >       > south and was more popular in southern churches. So when we
  > think of
  >   >       > shaped
  >   >       > note, we think of southern gospel and southern groups doing
it;
  > when
  >   > I
  >   >       > researched many groups came up in the south such as the
  > Wiregrass
  >   >   Sacred
  >   >       > Harp singers in Alabama.
  >   >       >
  >   >       > Ashley
  >   >       >
  >   >       >
  >   >       > -----Original Message-----
  >   >       > From: Joshua Lester
  >   >       > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:20 PM
  >   >       > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >       > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] shape note significance was An
  > Addition to
  >   >       > thePost
  >   >       > on Claude Ely from Joshua
  >   >       >
  >   >       > Most Sacred Harp singing is done in Shaped Note style.
  >   >       > Southern Gospel was the only Shaped note style, but shaped
notes
  >   > have
  >   >       > disappeared, lately.
  >   >       > This style came into Southern Gospel, through the Church of
God,
  >   >       > (Cleveland, TN,) (a Pentecostal group.)
  >   >       > Blessings, Joshua
  >   >       >
  >   >       > On 11/27/11, Paul <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com> wrote:
  >   >       >> Because of the strong influence on the Christian life of
the
  > South
  >   > by
  >   >     the
  >   >       >> Baptists, most probably it was that denomination, but not
  >   > necessarily
  >   >       >> Southern Baptists as there are quite a few faith
communities
  > that
  >   > use
  >   >     the
  >   >       >> name Baptist.  At least that's what I heard.  Paul
  >   >       >> ----- Original Message -----
  >   >       >> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
  >   >       >> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
  >   >       >> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
  >   >       >> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 5:04 PM
  >   >       >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] shape note significance was An
  > Addition
  >   > to
  >   >       >> thePost
  >   >       >> on Claude Ely from Joshua
  >   >       >>
  >   >       >>
  >   >       >> So Joshua, are you saying that some Quaker groups sang
Sacred
  > Harp
  >   >     music?
  >   >       >> Also, is all Sacred Harp music in the shape note form? I
  > thought I
  >   >     heard
  >   >       >> Sacred harp that was not Sacred Harp sometime.
  >   >       >> Maybe shaped notes can be part of Sacred Harp, but does not
  > have to
  >   >   be.
  >   >       >> What types of music has shaped note singing? I am not sure
its
  >   > around
  >   >     in
  >   >       >> modern churches, except maybe some traditional southern
  > churches.
  >   >   When
  >   >     I
  >   >       >> studied music history, my dad did not know what shaped note
  > music
  >   >   meant
  >   >       >> and
  >   >       >> he is from the south. We are white though; and perhaps it’s
a
  > black
  >   >       >> church
  >   >       >> thing.
  >   >       >> Since one part  is singing the scale of Doe, ray, me etc,
its
  >   > obvious
  >   >       >> when
  >   >       >> one hears shaped note singing. The other people sing the
words.
  >   >       >>
  >   >       >> Its my understanding that Sacred Harp singing is 1. With no
  >   >     instruments;
  >   >       >> not
  >   >       >> sure how to spell the word for that. 2. It uses the Sacred
Harp
  >   >   Hymnal.
  >   >       >> 3.
  >   >       >> The leader of the group is in the center. and 4. The
singing
  > sounds
  >   >       >> country-like with a nazal-like voice.
  >   >       >> It was common in southern churches, but I don't know what
  >   >   denomination.
  >   >       >>
  >   >       >> Ashley
  >   >       >>
  >   >       >> -----Original Message-----
  >   >       >> From: Joshua Lester
  >   >       >> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 9:26 PM
  >   >       >> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >       >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on Claude
Ely
  >   > from
  >   >       >> Joshua
  >   >       >>
  >   >       >> The Quakers vary from group to group.
  >   >       >> Our group was affiliated with the Central Yearly Meeting of
  >   > Friends,
  >   >       >> out of West Field, Indiana.
  >   >       >> We used the same hymnal as the Church of the Nazarine.
  >   >       >> We, in the United Pentecostal Church International use a
hymnal
  >   >       >> called, "Sing Unto the Lord," which is not, the Sacred
Harp.
  >   >       >> In the Appelachian Mountain area, they sang Sacred Harp,
and
  > Shaped
  >   >       >> Note style music.
  >   >       >> Blessings, Joshua
  >   >       >>
  >   >       >> On 11/26/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
wrote:
  >   >       >>> Joshua,
  >   >       >>> Am I correct that quakers song sacred harp music?
  >   >       >>> Are you also saying that your church uses the Sacred Harp
  > hymnal?
  >   >       >>> I thought Pentecostals used their own hymnal. Perhaps,
though
  > its
  >   >   just
  >   >       >>> your
  >   >       >>> preference to  like
  >   >       >>> older songs originating in other religious sects.
  >   >       >>> Ashley
  >   >       >>>
  >   >       >>>
  >   >       >>> -----Original Message-----
  >   >       >>> From: Joshua Lester
  >   >       >>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 8:08 PM
  >   >       >>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >       >>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on
Claude
  > Ely
  >   > from
  >   >       >>> Joshua
  >   >       >>>
  >   >       >>> We don't do Sacred Harp conventions, or "All Day Singing
  > Schools,"
  >   >       >>> anymore.
  >   >       >>> Some of your Oneness Pentecostals, (like myself,) still
sing
  > the
  >   >   older
  >   >       >>> songs, and use the hymnal.
  >   >       >>> We have a diferent hymnal, than the other groups.
  >   >       >>> Our hymns aren't the songs of the 17, and 1800's.
  >   >       >>> Our hymns are Southern Gospel, from Dad Speer, Albert E
  > Brumley,
  >   >   etc.
  >   >       >>> This, and the Black Gospel choir music is what I'd prefer,
for
  >   >   Sunday
  >   >       >>> Morning worship service.
  >   >       >>> The "711" songs have got to go!
  >   >       >>> Blessings, Joshua
  >   >       >>>
  >   >       >>> On 11/26/11, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
  > wrote:
  >   >       >>>> Paul,
  >   >       >>>> Thanks for telling us that the Loc issued religious
albums
  > to
  >   > the
  >   >       >>>> public.
  >   >       >>>> How many songs on this album?
  >   >       >>>> I might see if I can get some. Unfortunately, the general
  > public
  >   >     isn't
  >   >       >>>> too
  >   >       >>>> interested in old fashioned gospel, particularly with no
  >   >   instruments
  >   >       >>>> backing
  >   >       >>>> the singers, so you can't find these old styles of music
at
  >   >   Christian
  >   >       >>>> music
  >   >       >>>> stores. Ever noticed that Christian music sold at stores
is
  > often
  >   > a
  >   >       >>>> group
  >   >       >>>> of
  >   >       >>>> singers with instruments; mostly c contemporary music.
Its
  > good
  >   >   music
  >   >       >>>> IMO;
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>> I
  >   >       >>>> like the Wow worship cds, but I like old fashioned music
too.
  >   >       >>>> This might explain why they did not convert Lps and
cassettes
  > to
  >   >     modern
  >   >       >>>> day
  >   >       >>>> Cds.
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>> I certainly heard of Sacred Harp singing; It is pretty.
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>> It would be neat to hear a hymn done by lining.
  >   >       >>>> I've heard of that and think I first heard of that old
  > technique
  >   > in
  >   >       >>>> music
  >   >       >>>> class. It’s a technique, that to my knowledge, is not
  > practiced
  >   > in
  >   >     main
  >   >       >>>> line
  >   >       >>>> churches, and non denominational churches usually read
lyrics
  >   > from
  >   >   a
  >   >       >>>> screen
  >   >       >>>> rather than a hymnal.
  >   >       >>>> Now I'm real curious about this record! I think lining
would
  > be a
  >   >     great
  >   >       >>>> way
  >   >       >>>> to include everyone, not just those who can read and
follow a
  >   >   hymnal.
  >   >       >>>> Its not just blind people that cannot read it, its others
  > with
  >   >     learning
  >   >       >>>> disabilities or those who cannot hold a book open and
read
  > fast
  >   >     enough
  >   >       >>>> to
  >   >       >>>> sing for various reasons. Lining was a practice for a
long
  > time.
  >   > It
  >   >     was
  >   >       >>>> used
  >   >       >>>> because not everyone could read a hymnal or if the church
did
  > not
  >   >     have
  >   >       >>>> a
  >   >       >>>> hymnal.
  >   >       >>>> I've seen Sacred Harp singing on Youtube.
  >   >       >>>> I wonder if southerners still sing and have sacred harp
  >   >   conventions?
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>> I'll make note of the other albums.
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>> Take care.
  >   >       >>>> Ashley
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>> -----Original Message-----
  >   >       >>>> From: Paul
  >   >       >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:50 PM
  >   >       >>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >       >>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on
Claude
  > Ely
  >   >   from
  >   >       >>>> Joshua
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>> Well, I can't rightly tell you about everything on the
LP,
  > but
  >   >   here's
  >   >     a
  >   >       >>>> sample.  There is an example of lining in which the song
  > leader
  >   >     recites
  >   >       >>>> the
  >   >       >>>> first line of a hymn, in this case "Hosanna, Jesus
Reigns,"
  > and
  >   >   then
  >   >       >>>> the
  >   >       >>>> congregation sings it.  Then the song leader recites the
  > second
  >   >   line
  >   >       >>>> and
  >   >       >>>> then the congregation sings that also, and so on until
the
  > song
  >   > is
  >   >       >>>> finished.
  >   >       >>>> This recording was originally made by Elder LaSeer (not
sure
  > of
  >   >       >>>> spelling)
  >   >       >>>> in
  >   >       >>>> a Primitive Baptist Church somewhere in western North
  > Carolina in
  >   >     1961.
  >   >       >>>> There is also another Primitive Baptist song entitled
"The
  > Lord
  >   >   Will
  >   >       >>>> Provide," recorded by Elder Bradley in Lone Pine KY in
1971.
  >   >   Judging
  >   >       >>>> by
  >   >       >>>> the
  >   >       >>>> acoustics it sounds like it might have been recorded in a
  > tent or
  >   >   an
  >   >       >>>> outdoor
  >   >       >>>> venue.  Then there is a song sung by 12 bearded Old Order
  > Amish
  >   >     people
  >   >       >>>> from
  >   >       >>>> Colona, Iowa near Cedar Rapids, originally recorded in
1943
  > by
  >   >   Alton
  >   >     S.
  >   >       >>>> Bach
  >   >       >>>> and Addison Bach.  That's just a sample.
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>> As to other religious albums (when the LOC issued them to
the
  >   >   general
  >   >       >>>> public), there is one entitled "Children of the Heavenly
  > King:
  >   >       >>>> Religious
  >   >       >>>> Expressions of the Central Blue Ridge," originally issued
in
  > 1981
  >   >   and
  >   >       >>>> featuring Primitive Baptist and other rural expressions
of
  > one's
  >   >       >>>> Christianity in areas of southwestern Virginia and
  > northwestern
  >   >   North
  >   >       >>>> Carolina, encompassing the Virginia counties of Carrol,
  > Grayson
  >   > and
  >   >       >>>> Floyd
  >   >       >>>> and, in North Carolina, Ash and Wilts.  There is also an
  > album of
  >   >       >>>> Alabama
  >   >       >>>> Sacred Harp Singing, which has nothing to do with the
  > stringed
  >   >       >>>> instrument
  >   >       >>>> but is a unique style of a capella singing.  This was one
of
  > the
  >   >     early
  >   >       >>>> collections of the late Alan Lomax, originally recorded
in
  >   >   Birmingham
  >   >       >>>> in
  >   >       >>>> August 1942 during the 37th Alabama Sacred Harp Singing
  >   > Convention.
  >   >       >>>> Ditto
  >   >       >>>> for the song by Brother Claude Ely, although they used
  > guitars
  >   > and
  >   >   at
  >   >       >>>> least
  >   >       >>>> one mandolin.  For those of you who might be members of a
  > chat
  >   >       >>>> community
  >   >       >>>> called Out of Sight, have a working microphone and
soundcard,
  >   > would
  >   >     be
  >   >       >>>> delighted to go into one of the audio chatrooms over
there
  > during
  >   >   the
  >   >       >>>> day
  >   >       >>>> when nothing is going on.  Just let me know in a
reasonable
  >   > amount
  >   >   of
  >   >       >>>> time,
  >   >       >>>> and would be more than glad to let you hear this
admittedly
  >   > unique
  >   >     and
  >   >       >>>> little-known form of singing.  Your Christian brother,
Paul
  >   >       >>>> ----- Original Message -----
  >   >       >>>> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
  >   >       >>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
  >   >       >>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
  >   >       >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 6:19 PM
  >   >       >>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on
Claude
  > Ely
  >   >   from
  >   >       >>>> Joshua
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>>
  >   >       >>>>> Paul,
  >   >       >>>>> I haven't heard of this album or singer.
  >   >       >>>>> I didn't know the Library of congress issued religious
  > music! I
  >   >   know
  >   >       >>>>> they
  >   >       >>>>> did folk tunes and some by the shakers and African
American
  >   >       >>>>> spirituals,
  >   >       >>>>> but I didn't know about the religious music. Of course
some
  > folk
  >   >     tunes
  >   >       >>>>> and
  >   >       >>>>>
  >   >       >>>>> spirituals are somewhat religious.
  >   >       >>>>> What else is on "Religious songs, congregational and
  > ceremonial"
  >   >       >>>>> album?
  >   >       >>>>> Is
  >   >       >>>>>
  >   >       >>>>> it just
  >   >       >>>>> Claude's congregation? Based on the title of the song, I
  > assume
  >   >   its
  >   >       >>>>> music
  >   >       >>>>> is by a harp, and other songs probably instrumental;
after
  > all
  >   >   back
  >   >       >>>>> then
  >   >       >>>>> they did not have the fancy base drums, electric
guitars,
  > and
  >   >   sound
  >   >       >>>>> mixing
  >   >       >>>>>
  >   >       >>>>> we do for todays Christian bands.
  >   >       >>>>>
  >   >       >>>>> Older songs are only on old fashioned technology, i.e.
  > cassette
  >   > or
  >   >       >>>>> records.
  >   >       >>>>> Do you know if the library of congress still has this
album?
  >   > Maybe
  >   >     we
  >   >       >>>>> can
  >   >       >>>>> buy a copy from them?
  >   >       >>>>> I'll also check the internet for any songs by this
  > individual.
  >   >       >>>>>
  >   >       >>>>> Ashley
  >   >       >>>>> -----Original Message-----
  >   >       >>>>> From: Paul
  >   >       >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 4:58 PM
  >   >       >>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
  >   >       >>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on
Claude
  > Ely
  >   >   from
  >   >       >>>>> Joshua
  >   >       >>>>>
  >   >       >>>>> Well, Joshua, the only way I can get it to you, along
with
  > the
  >   >   other
  >   >       >>>>> selections from that album, is by snail mail and via
  > cassette as
  >   > I
  >   >       >>>>> don't
  >   >       >>>>> have any way of burning a CD from the album itself.  If
you
  >   > would
  >   >     give
  >   >       >>>>> me
  >   >       >>>>> your address off list, will make you a copy and send it
to
  > you,
  >   >     albeit
  >   >       >>>>> via
  >   >       >>>>> snail mail, and I'm sure we know how slow that can be.
But,
  > as
  >   >   I've
  >   >       >>>>> always
  >   >       >>>>> heard it said, better that way than not at all.  Paul
  >   >       >>>>> ----- Original Message -----
  >   >       >>>>> From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
  >   >       >>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and
religion"
  >   >       >>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
  >   >       >>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2011 3:36 PM
  >   >       >>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] An Addition to the Post on
Claude
  > Ely
  >   >   from
  >   >       >>>>> Joshua
  >   >       >>>>>
  >   >       >>>>>
  >   >       >>>>>> Thanks for the information!
  >   >       >>>>>> I'm interested in this recording.
  >   >       >>>>>> Thanks, Joshua
  >   >       >>>>>>
  >   >       >>>>>> On 11/26/11, Paul <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com> wrote:
  >   >       >>>>>>> If anyone here has a copy of the album "Religious
Songs,
  >   >       >>>>>>> Congregational
  >   >       >>>>>>> and
  >   >       >>>>>>> Ceremonial," issued by the Library of Congress as part
of
  >   > their
  >   >       >>>>>>> bicentennial
  >   >       >>>>>>> celebration in 1976, Claude Ely's congregation is
featured
  > on
  >   >   the
  >   >       >>>>>>> song
  >   >       >>>>>>> "Little David, Play On Your Harp." The undersigned has
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  >   >   album.
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