[Faith-talk] Halloween

Thu Oct 6 18:31:41 UTC 2011

well that is why i think it is up to the discernment of the parents after 
all we are the ones who answer to god for the decisions we make.
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>I agree!
> as a kid the part of not being allowed to participate in holloween 
> activities that always made me feel left out and that I missed was the 
> dressing up part!
> to say that christians shouldn't ever dress as something they are not 
> simply isn't fair! that would mean no more christmas plays...none of us is 
> Mary or Joseph after all!...no easter plays for most certainly none of us 
> is Jesus either!!
> and what about in children's churches all across the country where the 
> works dress as Bible charictors to teach a lesson...
> and then where do you draw the line? should we not use puppets? because 
> they aren't real?
> what about the simple kids game of dress up that they play when putting on 
> Mom or dad's close at home...is this wrong too? after all, they are kids , 
> not adults...and shouldn't be dressing as something they are not...
> this is a very hard topic to draw solid lines of what to do and what not 
> to do...at least I think so anyway...
>
> On Oct 6, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Greg Aikens wrote:
>
>> Even if I agreed with the idea that Halloween were completely evil, I 
>> don't think it makes sense for Christians to withdraw completely.  Can't 
>> God use something "evil" to bring about good?  I think you could use 
>> Halloween and even trick-or-treating with your kids as an excellent way 
>> to connect and build relationships with the families in your 
>> neighborhood/community.  Why not be salt and light on Halloween like 
>> every other day of the year?
>>
>> Of course you need to exercise wisdom and discernment about how you do 
>> this, but I think Christians can enjoy Halloween without "celebrating 
>> Satan."
>>
>> I'm not sure why wearing a costume would be wrong.  If I dress as a 
>> pirate, I'm not trying to deceive anyone into thinking I'm actually a 
>> pirate.  Are costume parties not allowed or just not on Halloween?  What 
>> about actors in church plays or nativity scenes?
>>
>> Kids are going to be exposed to ideas like witchcraft, vampires, etc. no 
>> matter what.  If I were a parent, I imagine I would want to be there when 
>> it happened to help them interpret what they see, instead of sheltering 
>> them and letting them hear about it from people I don't know or trust. 
>> This is probably just a philosophical difference though.
>>
>> Anyway, just my thoughts.
>>
>> -Greg
>> On Oct 6, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Nikki wrote:
>>
>>>  Amen.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Edgcumbe
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:35 AM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Halloween
>>>
>>> john I dis agree with you hallow wean is very harmful  kids are
>>> getting exposed to whichcraft when they get taken out to trick or
>>> treat because they see all these things like ghosts or goblins  to say
>>> to a child that stuff is real or whatever is lying as well.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> the other wrong part to hallow wean is we are introducing kids to
>>> evil and  saying it is okay to  the kids that which craft is fine.
>>>
>>> On 10/6/11, John J. Boyer <john at godtouches.org> wrote:
>>>> I think Halloween is harmless. After all, nobody believes in that 
>>>> stuff.
>>>> Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny are much worse. Parents lie to their
>>>> children, and these two mythical beings obscure the true meaning of
>>>> Christmas and Easter. No flames, please.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 07:33:43AM -0500, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>>>> The Catholics started it, with an "All Hallows Eve."
>>>>> They honored their ancestors, but the druids from the Occult took the
>>>>> holiday, and turned it into a gory day, with ghost, goblins, and the
>>>>> like.
>>>>> John Hagee did a doccumentary on it, but it isn't available anymore.
>>>>> Sister Jeanette, you may have connections to his ministry, being that
>>>>> you're originally from Texas.
>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/5/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>        Do you have kids?
>>>>>> Do you celebrate it?
>>>>>> Do you allow your kids to dress up and attend any school parties?
>>>>>> What is your take on this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note the Halloween is a High Holy day amongst the Wiccan (Witchcraft)
>>>>>> religion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Death
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gravestones, skeletons, gruesome undead themes. So much though that 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> seems
>>>>>> Halloween is a worship of death and the grave. Why the fascination 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do we not serve the king of Life, who has over come death, hell and 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> grave? Should the children of life participate in a celebration of
>>>>>> death?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Philipians 4:8 Test is a doctrinally sound application of 
>>>>>> scripture
>>>>>> Lets
>>>>>> us apply that to Halloween (You Answer Them!):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are
>>>>>> honest,
>>>>>> whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever
>>>>>> things
>>>>>> are
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue,
>>>>>> and if
>>>>>> there be any praise, think on these things.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. What is true about Halloween?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. What is Just About Halloween and it's trappings and traditions?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. Is there any purity in participating in a day of celebration with 
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> much
>>>>>> that is blatantly wicked about it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. What is lovely about costumes portraying axe murderers, or
>>>>>> gravestones
>>>>>> with skulls on them?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5. Is there a good report to be had in overt occult representations?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 6. What virtue is available in taking part in a day of sinful 
>>>>>> reveling?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 7. What is praiseworthy about these activities?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FELLOWSHIP ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE THE FOCUS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
>>>>>> ESPECIALLY
>>>>>> ON HOLIDAYS LIKE HOLLOWEEN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for any input.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> God bless you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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