[Faith-talk] Halloween

Jeanette nettiecosp at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 6 21:27:57 UTC 2011 

you know joshua as it was aid on another list you are on the other day, quit 
trying to tell us all how to live our lives, we each have the Holy spirit 
living within us and we can discern for ourselves what is right and wrong 
for ourselves and our families, it is annoying to have you and others tell 
us all the time ow we should live and act, i believe that is called legalism 
and is one of the things that can run folks off from the Gospel if it is 
shared with rules and regulations and rights and wrongs that are not 
supported by the bible.
 i do not by any means approve of the haunted house and evil stuff that some 
folks do during this season but please quit telling me what to do like you 
are some kind of authority. you are a very young man and have a lot left to 
learn for yourself and have no children or anything so i think htat to write 
things on the list like you are some kind of leader is frankly irritating. 
sharing your opinions is fine, just please tone it down on the orders you 
love to give us all on all of the lists you are on. jeanette
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joshua Lester" <jlester8462 at students.pccua.edu>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Halloween


> Christmas plays aren't like the Halloween rituals.
> If a little boy dressed up, as a fireman, it might not be a problem,
> but the ghosts, goblins, and Harry Potter junk has got to go!
> Tracts are always great, to hand out anytime.
> If you want to celebrate the holiday, cut out all of the gory stuff.
> Don't allow your children to go to haunted houses, etc.
> While I'm dealing with witchcraft, it is common, where I live as well.
> Here in my hometown, there are satanists that go to the graveyards,
> every friday night.
> They drive by my house, every friday night, blasting that horible Rock
> music, as they go down the road.
> This stuff has done alot of harm to our community!
> The crime rate had gone up, for a while, last year.
> Things are slowly going back to normal, because they've scaled back on
> their rituals, (but only after the neighbors got the pollice
> involved.)
> Blessings, Joshua
>
> On 10/6/11, Jeanette <nettiecosp at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Barbara i think you explained it perfectly, we each have to do what we 
>> feel
>> is right for our family and for others, particularly those without 
>> children
>> to judge us for the decisions we make is  foolishness.  each of us do 
>> what
>> we prayerfully believe is right for our children after all, we are the 
>> ones
>> who answer to god for the decisions we make not the other folks around 
>> us.
>> jeanette
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Barbara Hammel" <poetlori8 at msn.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 2:09 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Halloween
>>
>>
>>> If I had neurotypical children, I would probably only let them attend 
>>> the
>>> fall fun things that the churches hold.  For my children this is too
>>> overwhelming so we will probably trick or treat again this year because
>>> it's a chance to interact with other people.  Last year was the first 
>>> year
>>>
>>> I took them and we only went to four houses in the neighborhood.
>>> If one chooses to let their children partake of the rituals of this
>>> season, I think it's very important to explain to them the traditions of
>>> it.
>>> Barbara
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let every nation know whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall 
>>> pay
>>> any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, 
>>> oppose
>>> any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of 
>>> liberty.--John
>>>
>>> F. Kennedy
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew Edgcumbe
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 10:11 AM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Halloween
>>>
>>> I know we should not even par take of dressing up as something we are
>>> not that includes dressing up as whiches or pirots and things of that
>>> nature.
>>>
>>> We can be in the world but not of the world as the bible says.
>>>
>>> hallow wean is not something to fool with i believe christians true
>>> christians would not par take of the dressing up stuff and things.
>>>
>>> On 10/6/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>         But aren't you lieing to the world about who you are when you
>>>> dress
>>>> up
>>>> as something you are not?
>>>>
>>>> People on halloween pick costumes based upon their inward desires. Many
>>>> is
>>>> the girl dressed as a witch who wishes she was one, many is the boy
>>>> dressed
>>>> as a pirate who would dearly love to be that. The Bible tells us to
>>>> abstain
>>>> from the very appearance of evil. How then is dressing the part of
>>>> something
>>>> evil good and wholesome?
>>>>
>>>> Excuse: But all that imagery doesn't mean anything, it is all in fun!
>>>>
>>>> Answer: The imagery is there because it does in fact mean something. It
>>>> is a
>>>> representation of the inward desires of the flesh of the celebrants. 
>>>> Read
>>>> Galatians 5:19-21
>>>> . Many of those things listed as works of the flesh, that will keep us
>>>> from
>>>> being with Jesus are simply "all in fun."
>>>>
>>>> I will repeat my added phrase... You can live in this world, but not be 
>>>> a
>>>> part of it. There's a difference.
>>>> -Original Message-----
>>>> From: Julie McGinnity
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2011 9:23 AM
>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Halloween
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad John said it!
>>>>
>>>> Now...  My logic may not make sense to some of you, but I think that
>>>> Halloween is a good way of showing children that things like witches
>>>> and vampires are not real.  After all, when you dress up in costume,
>>>> the whole point is to dress up as something you are not, and I don't
>>>> see anything wrong with playing pretend as a kid.  I think studying
>>>> the roots of Halloween is a great idea though.  I was never taught as
>>>> a kid where it came from, and I think it would have been so neat to
>>>> me.
>>>>
>>>> I also agree about Santa and the Easter bunny.  Lying is wrong...
>>>> It's that simple...
>>>>
>>>> On 10/6/11, John J. Boyer <john at godtouches.org> wrote:
>>>>> I think Halloween is harmless. After all, nobody believes in that 
>>>>> stuff.
>>>>> Santa Clause and the Easter Bunny are much worse. Parents lie to their
>>>>> children, and these two mythical beings obscure the true meaning of
>>>>> Christmas and Easter. No flames, please.
>>>>>
>>>>> John
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 07:33:43AM -0500, Joshua Lester wrote:
>>>>>> The Catholics started it, with an "All Hallows Eve."
>>>>>> They honored their ancestors, but the druids from the Occult took the
>>>>>> holiday, and turned it into a gory day, with ghost, goblins, and the
>>>>>> like.
>>>>>> John Hagee did a doccumentary on it, but it isn't available anymore.
>>>>>> Sister Jeanette, you may have connections to his ministry, being that
>>>>>> you're originally from Texas.
>>>>>> Blessings, Joshua
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/5/11, Nikki <daizies304 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> >         Do you have kids?
>>>>>> > Do you celebrate it?
>>>>>> > Do you allow your kids to dress up and attend any school parties?
>>>>>> > What is your take on this?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Note the Halloween is a High Holy day amongst the Wiccan 
>>>>>> > (Witchcraft)
>>>>>> > religion.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Death
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Gravestones, skeletons, gruesome undead themes. So much though that
>>>>>> > it
>>>>>> > seems
>>>>>> > Halloween is a worship of death and the grave. Why the fascination
>>>>>> > with
>>>>>> > that?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Do we not serve the king of Life, who has over come death, hell and
>>>>>> > the
>>>>>> > grave? Should the children of life participate in a celebration of
>>>>>> > death?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The Philipians 4:8 Test is a doctrinally sound application of
>>>>>> > scripture
>>>>>> > Lets
>>>>>> > us apply that to Halloween (You Answer Them!):
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things 
>>>>>> > are
>>>>>> > honest,
>>>>>> > whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever
>>>>>> > things
>>>>>> > are
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any 
>>>>>> > virtue,
>>>>>> > and if
>>>>>> > there be any praise, think on these things.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 1. What is true about Halloween?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 2. What is Just About Halloween and it's trappings and traditions?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 3. Is there any purity in participating in a day of celebration 
>>>>>> > with
>>>>>> > so
>>>>>> > much
>>>>>> > that is blatantly wicked about it?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 4. What is lovely about costumes portraying axe murderers, or
>>>>>> > gravestones
>>>>>> > with skulls on them?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 5. Is there a good report to be had in overt occult 
>>>>>> > representations?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 6. What virtue is available in taking part in a day of sinful
>>>>>> > reveling?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > 7. What is praiseworthy about these activities?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > FELLOWSHIP ACTIVITIES SHOULD BE THE FOCUS IN THE BODY OF CHRIST.
>>>>>> > ESPECIALLY
>>>>>> > ON HOLIDAYS LIKE HOLLOWEEN.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Thanks for any input.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > God bless you.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Julie McG
>>>> Lindbergh High School class of 2009, participating member in Opera
>>>> Theater's Artist in Training Program, and proud graduate of Guiding
>>>> Eyes for the Blind
>>>>
>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>>> life."
>>>> John 3:16
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