[Faith-talk] I need prayer about the fact I had to give up my retired guide dog

[David Andrews]

This message is directed at everybody here.  First, people shouldn't 
make judgments about Jenny's cane skills and post them on the 
list.  All we know is what she tells us -- and anything else is just 
jumping to conclusions and isn't fair to her.

Secondly, cane travel is not a legitimate topic for this list.  This 
is the "faith-talk" list, not the travel list.

David Andrews, List Owner

At 07:28 AM 4/16/2012, you wrote:
>You know,
>
>I'm getting a little irritated with this.  I always have had and 
>still have great cane skills, but I don't feel that the cane has 
>given me as good information as a dog.
>
>I've been using a cane since I was a little girl and am good at it 
>and have great cane skills.  I just don't like to use it because I 
>don't like playing bumper cars in stead of just going around things.
>
>If you all don't consider that good cane skills, that's your opinion.
>
>Jenny
>On Apr 15, 2012, at 7:40 PM, PATRICK GORMLEY wrote:
>
> > Yes most guide dog schools want you to have learned to use the 
> cane first. What has happened is that she's let her cane skills go 
> and needs to get them back again.
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeanette" <nettiecosp at yahoo.com>
> > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 8:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] I need prayer about the fact I had to 
> give up myretired guide dog
> >
> >
> >> i thought you had to have excellent cane travel skills to get a 
> dog, all of us who do not have dogs use our canes very effectively 
> every day. jeanette
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "don nepple" <dnepple at hotmail.com>
> >> To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> >> Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2012 6:15 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] I need prayer about the fact I had to 
> give up my retired guide dog
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> hi their is nonthing rong with a cane it is a toal just like a 
> dog.if you learn to use it rite it will give you enoght in 
> formashin on the street i use on every day.you might think about 
> this if you can not learn to love your cane then maby you should 
> not have goten a god.i have lots of nfb frends that can use their 
> gods and allso thay can do just has well.so down put down cane 
> users.read stuff frum the nfbread mor on canes and gods and allso 
> think that mostons god gides users wher good cane users be for thay 
> got a dog. this might help you to learn to like the cane it does 
> work.ask sum others on this list.your frend frum idaho.don nepple.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> From: jlperdue3 at gmail.com
> >>>> Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:56:02 -0500
> >>>> To: faith-talk at nfbnet.org
> >>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] I need prayer about the fact I had 
> to give up my retired guide dog
> >>>>
> >>>> thanks, I'm not sure I will get another guide even though I 
> applied for one at another school.
> >>>>
> >>>> They were supposed to send me a medical release via email 
> early in the week to sign and email back. It hasn't come and maybe 
> it's Heavenly Father's way of saying I don't need another dog.
> >>>>
> >>>> My life isn't really active enough for one and my personal 
> assistant takes me almost everywhere I go.
> >>>>
> >>>> As far as the cane travel goes. I want to break it in half and 
> scream every time I take it and leave the house. I hate it beyond 
> belief and I don't think it gives enough information about my 
> surroundings for me to consider it a safe method of travel, which 
> is why I got a dog in the first place.
> >>>>
> >>>> I guess I will just let the dog thing go for now and swallow 
> the feelings of bitterness and hate for the cane every time I pick 
> it up to travel.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jenny
> >>>> On Apr 15, 2012, at 6:45 PM, tina birenbaum wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > I am so sorry! feel your pain! i retried my third guide last 
> year and > don't plan to get anymore myself but still follow my 
> school just to > keep up on what they do and still support them for 
> other users, > hbubut, be kind to yourself, i found people in my 
> church very > supportive i know, going back to a cane full time was 
> almost numbing > for me such a change but i know have a collection 
> of the things. > e-mail me off list if you need to talk or i can 
> talk with you on skype > or zello. My dog just found a permanent 
> home a couple months ago for > many reasons and i've found it very 
> helpful at times to just have > people listen, not pretend to know 
> what to say, but just sit with me > and listen or just be on the 
> emotional roller coaster with me. I'M on > both skype and zello
> >>>> > tina100372 so feel free to add me.
> >>>> > Original message:
> >>>> >> Hi,
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> I'm Jenny and new to the list. I had to let my retired 
> guide go to a >> new home because I had planned on getting another 
> dog in the future >> and the landlord said we couldn't have my 
> retired guide, Ramses, our >> little yip yap dog, and a new guide 
> in the house at the same time.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> I hurt beyond belief and was unable to go to church this 
> morning >> because it would've been the first Sunday without him 
> and I knew >> there would be a lot of questions as to why he wasn't with me.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Please pray for a gentle grief and to know whether to even 
> get >> another dog. Also, I'm considering unsubscribing to my guide 
> dog >> lists because I am unsure about the whole thing altogether 
> and don't >> want to hear about dog stuff when the loss is so fresh 
> and while >> having to adjust to cane life again, yuck.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Anyway, your prayers would be appreciated.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> In Christ,
> >>>> >
> >>>> >> Jenny
> >>>> >> On Apr 15, 2012, at 5:11 PM, tina birenbaum wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >>> I was asked today if I'd think about working with my 
> church worship >>> team. It's been a long time since I've done 
> anything musical and >>> just need prayer if this is what god wants 
> me to do. Sounds >>> intriguing on one hand, and nerve wracking on 
> the other. I could >>> suggest a ton of music to them and i did 
> today , but being back >>> onstage again is a different thing altogether
> >>>> >