[Faith-talk] Healing, or not being healed

Sun Apr 29 19:42:24 UTC 2012

yes we are and the popes from John the twenty-third on have recognized our 
contributions.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Healing, or not being healed


> Are charismatic Catholics also under the Pope's reign.
>
> I have heard of them, but never been able to ask that question.
>
> Jenny
> On Apr 28, 2012, at 10:09 PM, PATRICK GORMLEY wrote:
>
>> Jenny usually there's also a decided lack of maturity on the part of 
>> people that make statements like that.  They're acting like the pharisees 
>> did as a result of the healing of Bartimaeus in John 9.  Jesus did it 
>> right when he answered his disciples query about whose sin it was  and 
>> Jesus said none. I've been a catholic charismatic for over 30 years and 
>> everything is in the spirit's timing.  I'll give you a good example. 
>> Recently I prayed for the grandson of one of the members of our prayer 
>> group.  Unfortunately he died and we'll never know the answer why. 
>> That's a topic we can ask God when we get to Heaven.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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>> Sent: Saturday, April 28, 2012 10:05 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Healing, or not being healed
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>>
>>> Yeah, I had the churches that wouldn't stop trying to heal me till I 
>>> finally lied and said I could see better.
>>>
>>> I'm from Florida too, and the evangelical churches that I went to that 
>>> spoke in tongues that claimed that you could do it if you only had 
>>> enough faith and if you couldn't do it you weren't truly as close to 
>>> Heavenly Father as they were.  It was almost like a status symbol thing 
>>> or something.
>>>
>>> I believe in speaking in tongues, don't get me wrong.  I just think that 
>>> some churches go way overboard with it to show others that they can do 
>>> it, and some of it is pure gibberish that they claim is tongues.
>>>
>>> Just my opinion.
>>>
>>> Jenny
>>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Beth wrote:
>>>
>>>> I got tired of all the churches' teachings in Florida, the ones who 
>>>> said that my eyes needed to be healed, and then the Evangelicals 
>>>> followed me around and said that if they do a good deed for me, they'll 
>>>> get brownie points from God.  Strange, huh.
>>>> Beth
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Jenny Keller <jlperdue3 at gmail.com
>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>> Date sent: Sat, 28 Apr 2012 19:52:56 -0500
>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Healing, or not being healed
>>>>
>>>> I left the church because of garbage like that, and the final straw was 
>>>> that I was told that my child abuse was a punishment from GOD because 
>>>> of some sin I had committed and needed to be punished for.
>>>>
>>>> I now know that's not at all the case, but both things made it 
>>>> difficult to want to go to church and believe in a loving Heavenly 
>>>> Father again. It took a long time to have a strong relationship with 
>>>> him, and to find the right church, that in my belief, teaches the true 
>>>> gospel of Jesus Christ.  It took me from the age of 16 till I was 35 to 
>>>> find where I truly belonged in his earthly kingdom.
>>>>
>>>> Healing has nothing to do with how much faith you have folks, and the 
>>>> quicker people stop telling people that, the more people will come to 
>>>> know our Heavenly Father and his glorious Son Jesus Christ, and the 
>>>> peace and beauty that goes with that knowledge of them.
>>>>
>>>> I know what it was like to have no belief in Heavenly Father at all for 
>>>> a while, and it was the hardest time of my life.  I feel truly and 
>>>> painfully sorry for those who have no faith in Heavenly Father, and his 
>>>> love for them.
>>>>
>>>> Jenny
>>>> On Apr 28, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I agree completely. I personally get tired of the implication that 
>>>> because I haven't been healed of blindness or hearing loss that I don't 
>>>> have enough faith. Those who say this don't know me or my relationship 
>>>> with my Lord.
>>>>
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