[Faith-talk] accessibility of church service material

Tue May 1 00:58:46 UTC 2012

Debbie, it sounds like you're SBC. Please right me off list, I might be able 
to assist you. As far as this professor of the online university goes, I 
knew for a fact Dr. Jimmy hayes at Andersonville theological seminary tries 
assisting those of us who are blind in any way he can. RJ
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Debbie Brown" <63characters at comcast.net>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] accessibility of church service material

When most of us were growing up, most church materials were inaccessible,
and there wasn't much we could do about it.  These days, because most
printed material is produced on a computer, this situation seems to me to be
less acceptable.  I receive my church bulletin in accessible PDF, which is
actually better than the Word document (some techie may know why).

It is disturbing to me how much material for seminars and classes is
inaccessible.  While some ministries are working on a shoestring budget,
others are charging churches a lot of money for their materials, and in that
case I find inaccessibility unacceptable.  Some of these people seem more
worried about protecting their copyright than spreading the gospel, and I
have to wonder whether they are serving God or Mammon.

I have been able to get Lifeways Ministries to provide some of Beth Moore's
Bible courses, but it is more of a hassle than it should be, and I have to
go through this application every time.

I receive a journal in audio format called "Does God Exist," about the Bible
and science.  The editor of the journal, John Clayton, reads it himself, and
a blind guy duplicates it on CD for him.  He really is working on a
shoestring budget, but he has a blind son, so he gets accessibility.

Some teachers are very good at getting their class materials to me in time
for class.  One of the best at my church is a retired college professor, so
he knows how to make outlines and study guides.  Some of the worst are
actually professional preachers, because they have trouble using their
computers.  Older ones seem to have more trouble than younger ones.

I make it a point to ask, and I am trying to make it a policy not to buy
study materials for seminars that are not accessible.  We had one recently
at which nothing was accessible, and this person is supposed to be a college
professor at an online university.  I hope no blind guy wants to take his
classes, or he may find himself at the wrong end of a lawsuit.

I think we are not being unreasonable to ask for accessible materials, but
we ought to show some loving consideration for the particular individuals we
may be dealing with at church.

Debbie Brown

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] accessibility of church service material

I am a member of the LDS church.

the hymnals a two volume bound braille volumes and the Sunday School
material and Relief Society, which is our women's group materials are
available on the website via just reading it on the site and being aboe to
click on the scripture references, or audio that you can download or just
listen to in mp3 format.

the bulletins and such are not accessable.  But I'm sure if I asked them to
email me the contents they would.  I just never thought to do so.

Jenny
On Apr 29, 2012, at 11:36 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:

> Hi all,
> I said I’d post something to generate discussion rather than the traffic 
> about forwards or debate on what to post. IMO, if you have a question 
> about posting a topic, ask the moderator off list.
> This sounds better to me than debating what topic is on topic for the 
> list.
> We go through that ocasionally on other lists I’m on too; its annoying 
> since the debate about the list just generates endless traffic with no 
> answer.
> My topic here.
> For those of you going to church regularly, how is the accessibility of 
> the material? I’ll speak to my methodist church growing up.
> They had a large braille hymnal of like 7 volumes for me. Other than that, 
> the print wasn’t accessible. The schedule, bulletin, inserts of songs 
> within the bulletin, etc was not accessible.  So I just listened to some 
> songs and the other stuff read in the bulletin. For instance, we have to 
> respond as a congregation to readings; I think its called the call to 
> worship or something.
> I stood and listened to that. Everyone else reads from their sheet.
> I got a lot out of church since everyone hears the announcements, sermon, 
> etc, but do not feel I was able to fully participate.
>
> Ashley
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