[Faith-talk] This is sad indeed

Thu Dec 5 00:47:46 UTC 2013

Is the title page still there in the front? If so, that should say. 
Otherwise, find out the publisher of the hymnal, and they should be 
able to tell you, since they gave the permission to be brailled.

Blessings,

Linda

At 06:05 PM 12/4/2013, you wrote:
>Hello all. My name is Rob Kaiser. I am president of the nfb of 
>Orange county California. I am new to this list.
>
>I sing at the First United Methodist Church in Orange, CA.
>
>This, I agree is very sad. I use a braille Methodist hymnal. I have 
>used it for over 20 years. Pages have been lost and continually are 
>falling out. Does anyone know where I can get a new Methodist hymnal?
>Thanks.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 3:30 PM
>To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] This is sad indeed
>
>Justin,
>Actually, they are not stopping braille production.
>Read the article carefully; they are closing down some centers which produce
>braille. But they are still producing braille bibles as they are requested.
>Also, I think they want to still provide the service; the article did not at
>all sound anti braille,
>but they cannot provide a service when little demand is made for it. Also
>funding is a factor. To produce and distribute Bibles for free, they need
>donations to cover the cost.
>
>I do hope braille is available for those wanting it. I love reading braille
>for scripture; its more reflective for me. Audio just does not cut it to go
>verse by verse and reflect on the word.
>
>Ashley
>
>-----Original Message----- From: justin williams
>Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 11:27 AM
>To: 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion'
>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] This is sad indeed
>
>While I am generally an audio reader, I am still a fluid braille user; it is
>unfortunate to have people think so little of braille as to stop producing
>it.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Snow
>White Dove
>Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2013 11:24 AM
>To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] This is sad indeed
>
>Hi all,
>Yes it is sad. The Lutheran Church has really worked hard to try to get
>things in braille front.
>However, I do believe that Christian record services produces a braille
>Bible.
>FYI,
>Jenny
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>>On Nov 29, 2013, at 5:20 PM, "Poppa Bear" <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>Very very good points Paul.
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
>>To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>><faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 1:40 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] This is sad indeed
>>
>>
>>>Yes, I agree it is sad, but in all this talk about audio books in
>>>electronic formats and digital NLS cartridges, there is a small but
>>>nonetheless recognizable population among the blind that will be
>>>impacted drastically, and that is the deaf-blind community.  The only
>>>practical way they can read is in Braille, if in fact they already
>>>know it.  That is why the undersigned protested loudly but
>>>respectfully when the Gospel Association for the Blind discontinued
>>>the Braille edition of its official publication, "The Gospel
>>>Messenger" magazine sometime in 2012.  As a small way of showing
>>>solidarity with our deaf-blind Christians, I chose then and continue
>>>not to subscribe to the cassette or online version of this magazine.
>>>I hope personally that I won't live to see the day when Braille is
>>>totally eliminated from being produced.  Let's remember our
>>>deaf-blind Christians in this hour of need, and try to, if only
>>>vicariously, "walk in their shoes." Paul
>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Poppa Bear"
>>><heavens4real at gmail.com>
>>>To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>><faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 3:40 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] This is sad indeed
>>>
>>>
>>>>It is sad, it reminds me that we need to really be aware of the changing
>world that we live in and understand that if we don't move with technology,
>it has the ability to steam roll us right over. Unfortunatly they didn't
>start to look at different ways they could still inpact the blind community
>with the Bible before it came to this point from what it seems like. Never
>the less, God is still in control.
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "debby phillips"
>>>><semisweetdebby at gmail.com>
>>>>To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 9:56 PM
>>>>Subject: [Faith-talk] This is sad indeed
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>This is very sad to me.    Blessings,    Debby
>>>>>
>>>>>---- Original Message ------
>>>>>From: "Raymond Bishop" <rtbishop at sbcglobal.NET
>>>>>Subject: [christianblindinstitute] Braille Center Closes in
>>>>>Arkansas Date sent: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 21:09:02 -0600
>>>>>
>>>>>A new mission Lutheran Braille Workers closes center in Bella Vista
>>>>>church By Christie Storm In 28 years, volunteers at the Lutheran
>>>>>Braille Workers center in Northwest Arkansas printed more than
>>>>>51,000 books of the Bible for the blind and visually impaired.
>>>>>This month, the group is no more. Advances in technology for the
>>>>>blind have led to a decline in demand for Braille Bibles and the
>>>>>ministry headquartered in Yucaipa, Calif., has been forced to close
>>>>>several volunteer work centers around the country.  Four of six
>>>>>centers in Arkansas were on the closure list, including the one
>operating out of Bella Vista Lutheran Church.
>>>>>For coordinator Marie Herr, it was a hard loss.  She started the
>>>>>only center in Northwest Arkansas at Faith Lutheran Church in
>>>>>Bentonville almost three decades ago.  The center moved to Bella
>>>>>Vista in 2007 and was abuzz with activity each Tuesday from morning
>>>>>to night year-round.  One-seventh of my life has been spent in
>>>>>Braille, said the 87-year-old Herr, referring to the one out of seven
>days she spends working on the Braille Bibles each week.
>>>>>She discovered the Braille ministry while living in Texas and would
>>>>>carpool with a group of women from her church to a work center once
>>>>>a month. When she moved to Bentonville, the women's group at her
>>>>>new church was looking for a ministry to support and Herr suggested
>>>>>Lutheran Braille Workers. The volunteers began working in 1985.
>>>>>The Rev.  Phillip M.  Pledger, president of Lutheran Braille Workers,
>said closing the volunteer centers wasn't easy.
>>>>>It's been very hard on everybody, he said.  It's not a pleasant or
>>>>>a welcome change.  But it was inevitable with advances in
>>>>>technology, he said. Our Braille orders have plummeted over the
>>>>>last few years andI had a feeling it was going to, but I never
>>>>>would have thought it would happen so quickly, Pledger said.  Blind
>>>>>and visually impaired readers are increasingly turning to
>>>>>electronic books, audio books and other media, which has forced the
>>>>>organization to adapt, Pledger said.  The ministry is considering
>>>>>books of the Bible via cartridges that fit into USB ports on
>>>>>computers and other devices, he said, adding that they will also
>>>>>continue to supply the Braille Bibles as long as there is a need.
>>>>>Lutheran Braille Workers got its start in 1943.  Fred Graepp was a
>>>>>seminary student in the 1930s and was blinded in an industrial
>>>>>accident.  Pledger said Graepp went back home to San Jose, Calif.,
>>>>>and got involved with ministries for the blind.  During World War
>>>>>II, he heard about the Nazis destroying Braille Bibles and wanted
>>>>>to send new ones to German pastors.  Fred took it upon himself to
>>>>>transcribe the Bible back into German Braille, Pledger said.  He
>>>>>put out an ad in one of our denomination's magazines asking for
>>>>>volunteers who would learn German and Braille to transcribe Bibles.
>>>>>One of the volunteers was Helene Loeber. She was a remarkable
>>>>>person, Pledger said.  She got things done.  Loeber recruited women
>>>>>from her church and with the help of her brother, Norman, who
>>>>>constructed a Braille press from the rollers from the family's
>>>>>ringer washer, began to streamline the process.  Today, the
>>>>>organization has about
>>>>>5,000 volunteers in centers across the United States.  They send
>>>>>books of the Bible in 30 languages, free of charge, to the blind
>>>>>and visually impaired in
>>>>>120 countries.  The text is embossed on zinc plates, which are fed
>>>>>through a press to imprint the Braille onto both sides of a piece
>>>>>of paper.  The pagesare then collated and fixed in spiral binders.
>>>>>A complete Bible includes 37 volumes that take up 5 feet of shelf
>>>>>space.  A complete set costs about $185 to produce - costs that are
>>>>>met by donations and money raised by participating churches.  Each
>>>>>center is responsible for printing specific books of the Bible.
>>>>>The Bella Vista center produced Matthew in Spanish and Estonian,
>>>>>Acts in English and French and a two-volume set of Jeremiah and
>>>>>Lamentations in English.  Herr said volunteers learned to sight-read
>Braille to ensure the pages were inserted correctly into the binders.
>>>>>Over the years, about 60 volunteers printed more copies of Acts
>>>>>than any other - 27,785.  Herr shared the statistics at an
>>>>>appreciation banquet held for the volunteers in late October.
>>>>>We've had some wonderful people with us for many, many years, she
>>>>>said.  It's been very rewarding.  Even with the center's closure, the
>volunteers weren't ready to give up their ministry.
>>>>>Herr and others now volunteer at Trinity Lutheran Church in
>>>>>Freistatt, Mo., about 60 miles away.  Our whole objective is to
>>>>>bring Christ to those in darkness, she said.
>>>>>Work centers in Mountain Home, Searcy and Waldenburg, near
>>>>>Jonesboro, were also on the closure list.  Two sites, First
>>>>>Lutheran Church in Hot Springs and Christ Lutheran Church in Hot
>>>>>Springs Village, remain open.  Pledger said the two centers are very
>active and able to financially support the work.
>>>>>Howard Graff has been volunteering at First Lutheran Church's
>>>>>center for several years.  He said the church's center has about 52
>>>>>volunteers. They work Tuesdays and Thursdays throughout the year.
>>>>>The center prints I Samuel, I and II Kings, Luther's Small
>>>>>Catechism and John in Burmese and devotional booklets.
>>>>>We usually do about 300 a month, he said, adding thatthe center has
>>>>>three Braille presses.  For Pledger, the changes in the
>>>>>organization have been difficult, especially because he knows the
>>>>>volunteers are so committed. Part of our reluctance to believe this
>>>>>is happening is that there's a big movement of people who love
>>>>>doing this, he said.  A lot of people, once they get started they
>>>>>don't want to stop.  Pledger said he thinks there will be a
>>>>>long-term demand for paper Braille books but perhaps not as much as
>>>>>in the past.  He said one bright spot has been the increased demand
>>>>>for large-print items, including copies of the Lutheran hymnal.
>>>>>Electronic books may one day take over, but he's not ready to give
>>>>>in.  I think eventually they'll be so ubiquitous, people won't think of
>using a paper book but we're not there just yet, he said.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Raymond Bishop, NV9B
>>>>>Philippians 4:6-7
>>>>>
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