[Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

[justin williams]

Sounds like you have a good church.

-----Original Message-----
From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Maureen
Pranghofer
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:28 AM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

Your church sounds lots like ours.  It's a large church, about 5000 members
and they say right off the bat "If you want to get connected, become
involved, people won't come to you."  Consequently I have written music for
the church, was on worship team for years, have contributed and been in
Bible studies, am the scheduler for a ministry doing home repair to widows
and abused women and disabled folks, am a hospital and nursing home visitor
and in a prayer group.  My husband is taking his 7th trip to Haiti where the
church built a home for disabled children.  Even though he is in a
wheelchair and born with no arms they let him do this.  So we enjoy giving. 
The church had done lots of ome mantainance things for us, put up our
Christmas tree, has youth come once a month to help with whatever we have
need of doing, provided me a reader, and as been involved in our lives in so
many ways but it's because the church is not the organization, leadership or
building it's the people.  We do exposatory preaching working our way
through Bible books week after week just a few verses at a time.  Took the
congregation 5 years to study Matthew.  Maybe there is a relationship
between ow the church is in the Word and the way people are treated, don't
know just wondering.  I apologize for this being so long.
Maureen


-----Original Message-----
From: Poppa Bear
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:13 PM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

This is all diffirent for me and sounds a little odd because in my case I am
usually the care taker for those around me, I invite those who have less
over for dinner, xmas, and Thanksgiving. We end up being a small refuge for
quite a few families and have a couple give and take open door relationships
with members of my Church. I have a gentlemen  who is faithful as a
grandfather clock to call me every friday to see if I want to go to the mens
breakfast and pick me up bright and early every time. Another lady picks up
my girls every morning to take them to the Christian school. The thing is
that our Pastor really drives home the point of living out active Christian
lives that consist of faithful Christian service that leads to great
oppertunities to love and bless others and as people start to listen to his
preaching from the word they find that the truth that "it is better to give
then to receive" is a faithful and tru promis. Never the less I am sure that
there are plenty of broken and lonely hearts in my Church just dying for a
closer relationship with somebody in the body.
----- Original Message -----
From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
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Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness


> Unforchantely, that is all to comon place. RJ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>
>
>> I've an answer to this problem about the church pitying us because of our

>> blindness, and I read this statement many years ago in a book about blind

>> welfare from the RNIB.  The main reason, as I and the author of the book 
>> see it, is that there is yet no practical substitution to the human eye. 
>> For some deaf and hard of hearing people there is the cochlear implant 
>> and for people who have lost limbs or arms there are artificial ones 
>> which, although naturally not like the originals in their totality, 
>> nevertheless work to some extent.  Unfortunately even in my church, even 
>> though they don't pity me, no one will invite me over to their place for 
>> a meal and some good conversation.  This happened after our Thanksgiving 
>> Day service, and I pray it won't happen after Christmas Day services 
>> either.  Hope that was an adequate explanation.  Paul
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" 
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:53 PM
>> Subject: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>
>>
>>> Dear list, First, as someone wi!th a doctorate in theology, I must say 
>>> I've not seen anywhere in scripture Christ refur to blindness as 
>>> something to be looked upon as evil, and yet, the church tens to pity 
>>> us. I've not seen this in my own church thank the Lord, but I know some 
>>> of you have. God allowed to be blind, and I don't need some faulse 
>>> teacher to tell me to claim my healing, just so they can bum money off 
>>> me
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