[Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

Wed Dec 18 23:42:13 UTC 2013

Hi eveverybody,

I wanted to tell you that I’ve been to churches where they lay hands on you and try to heal you over and over again in the same session.  

they just assume that that is what you want out of GOD or life.

I had to lie and pretend that some of my sight was restored to make one churches pastor stop.

I go to a very old school traditional catholic church.  They include everybody and they have been very inclusive of me.

People from the church take Brad grocery shopping, and we get together when we can.

also, Everybody is great about getting me to and from mass.

christmas is going to be hard though cause I need someone strong to get my chair up the stairs to the church as the church is the poorest church in the diocese and they don’t have the money to put in a ramp.  

Most people I know are not going to be here for Christmas, so I’ll probably miss Christmas masses both on Christmas at midnight and two more during the day.

Other than that, if people can help they are more than happy to do it and I am included in things in the church too.

I’m sorry for those who don’t have that.

I’ve been there too.

Jenny
On Dec 18, 2013, at 2:15 AM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sheala, it sounds like you guys are going to be valuable members of your new body of believers. Stefany, I am sorry to hear about your current sittuation, I really understand your feelings, I have talked to quite a few people lately going through the same emotions. I don't want to sound like a big steriotype, but I hope you have a Spiritual out litt outside of the Church, like this list, good books, devotions, positive and healing music, good forms of entertainment weather it be friends, movies or TV shows, all of these things can play a part in carrying us through the hard times and help us to feel closer to God.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephanie" <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
> To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
> 
> 
>> I have to say that right now, I'm feeling rather disulused with the church. They were never around to help as when things got tough for our family. I sing in the choir, but when I was ill recently, no one called or wanted to know how I was. I have a friend who is suffering for liver cancer. Same thing, they express concern but that's as far as it goes. I'd had more help and support and offered the same more to those who don't believe in God. I just think it's awful when those who claim to have a belief and love God don't show that. I'd rather mix with those who are loving, accept me for who I am, and appreciate the support.
>> Right now, I'm thinking of quitting  church altogether. I still believe in God, but I want to be with those who accept me for who I am, don't give pat answers when things are tough, and just are humans.
>> Steph
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: sheila <sleigland at bresnan.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Date: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 4:08 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> hi, it isn't always easy to find support in church. We just started
>>> attending a new church and I've been very open about what I expect and
>>> also want to give as a part of this new family. I'm singing on christmas
>>> eve and I've been told that we are welcome to participate in any way
>>> that we see fit. We have been also told that we know how to accomplish
>>> things and they need to learn and take their cues from us. It is
>>> refreshing indeed. Now it is our place to make full use of this openness
>>> so that we can continue to be taken seriously.
>>> On 12/17/2013 8:29 PM, Beth Taurasi wrote:
>>> > I've been told I needed new eyes.  But that's not the case.  My
>>> > boyfriend is Christian, believes in the tithing and offering money to
>>> > church, but I've only had one outing with friends since I went to my
>>> > new church.  What I really want out of the membership at Grace
>>> > Community Church in Denver is something like a church where anyone
>>> > will be willing to lend a hand and that I can do the same thing for
>>> > someone else.  I want to be able to, for instance, babysit.  Or maybe,
>>> > at some point, I could do worship team.  And yes, I want a church ful
>>> > of willing hands and people who can cook meals for me when I get a
>>> > baby, cook meals for me when Blake dies or something happens to us, or
>>> > even celebrate with us when our babies are dedicated.  We need a
>>> > support network, and churches don't often do that.
>>> > Beth
>>> >
>>> > On 12/17/2013 7:28 PM, rhonda cruz wrote:
>>> >>   hi god made me just the way i am,
>>> >>   and i don't want my vision. back,
>>> >>   i am doing just fine with out it,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Dec 17, 2013, at 5:13 PM, Poppa Bear wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> I have been told that story more than a few times, a preacher sees
>>> >>> me somewhere, asks to pray for me, then puts his hands on my head
>>> >>> and pleads the blood to heall me. I try and use it as an opertunity
>>> >>> to explain that God has revieled himself to me in ways I couldn't
>>> >>> imagine if I had still had my sight, but they don't seem to here a
>>> >>> word.
>>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "RJ Sandefur"
>>> >>> <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> >>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> >>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 3:53 PM
>>> >>> Subject: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Dear list, First, as someone wi!th a doctorate in theology, I must
>>> >>>> say I've not seen anywhere in scripture Christ refur to blindness
>>> >>>> as something to be looked upon as evil, and yet, the church tens to
>>> >>>> pity us. I've not seen this in my own church thank the Lord, but I
>>> >>>> know some of you have. God allowed to be blind, and I don't need
>>> >>>> some faulse teacher to tell me to claim my healing, just so they
>>> >>>> can bum money off me
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