[Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

RJ Sandefur joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com
Thu Dec 19 02:03:37 UTC 2013


Heres my churches websight:
www.fbcokee.org
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephanie" <naturelovingmom at gmail.com>
To: <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness


> Wow, that's amazing. By the way, does anyone know of some good christian 
> podcasts?
> Steph
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Maureen Pranghofer <maureensmusic at comcast.net>
> To: "Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion" 
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Date: Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:28 am
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>
>>
>>
>> Your church sounds lots like ours.  It's a large church, about 5000 
>> members
>> and they say right off the bat "If you want to get connected, become
>> involved, people won't come to you."  Consequently I have written music 
>> for
>> the church, was on worship team for years, have contributed and been in
>> Bible studies, am the scheduler for a ministry doing home repair to 
>> widows
>> and abused women and disabled folks, am a hospital and nursing home 
>> visitor
>> and in a prayer group.  My husband is taking his 7th trip to Haiti where 
>> the
>> church built a home for disabled children.  Even though he is in a
>> wheelchair and born with no arms they let him do this.  So we enjoy 
>> giving.
>> The church had done lots of ome mantainance things for us, put up our
>> Christmas tree, has youth come once a month to help with whatever we have
>> need of doing, provided me a reader, and as been involved in our lives in 
>> so
>> many ways but it's because the church is not the organization, leadership 
>> or
>> building it's the people.  We do exposatory preaching working our way
>> through Bible books week after week just a few verses at a time.  Took 
>> the
>> congregation 5 years to study Matthew.  Maybe there is a relationship
>> between ow the church is in the Word and the way people are treated, 
>> don't
>> know just wondering.  I apologize for this being so long.
>> Maureen
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Poppa Bear
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:13 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>
>> This is all diffirent for me and sounds a little odd because in my case I 
>> am
>> usually the care taker for those around me, I invite those who have less
>> over for dinner, xmas, and Thanksgiving. We end up being a small refuge 
>> for
>> quite a few families and have a couple give and take open door 
>> relationships
>> with members of my Church. I have a gentlemen  who is faithful as a
>> grandfather clock to call me every friday to see if I want to go to the 
>> mens
>> breakfast and pick me up bright and early every time. Another lady picks 
>> up
>> my girls every morning to take them to the Christian school. The thing is
>> that our Pastor really drives home the point of living out active 
>> Christian
>> lives that consist of faithful Christian service that leads to great
>> oppertunities to love and bless others and as people start to listen to 
>> his
>> preaching from the word they find that the truth that "it is better to 
>> give
>> then to receive" is a faithful and tru promis. Never the less I am sure 
>> that
>> there are plenty of broken and lonely hearts in my Church just dying for 
>> a
>> closer relationship with somebody in the body.
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:10 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>
>>
>> > Unforchantely, that is all to comon place. RJ
>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>> > From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
>> > To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> > <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> > Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:02 PM
>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>> >
>> >
>> >> I've an answer to this problem about the church pitying us because of 
>> >> our
>> >> blindness, and I read this statement many years ago in a book about 
>> >> blind
>> >> welfare from the RNIB.  The main reason, as I and the author of the 
>> >> book
>> >> see it, is that there is yet no practical substitution to the human 
>> >> eye.
>> >> For some deaf and hard of hearing people there is the cochlear implant
>> >> and for people who have lost limbs or arms there are artificial ones
>> >> which, although naturally not like the originals in their totality,
>> >> nevertheless work to some extent.  Unfortunately even in my church, 
>> >> even
>> >> though they don't pity me, no one will invite me over to their place 
>> >> for
>> >> a meal and some good conversation.  This happened after our 
>> >> Thanksgiving
>> >> Day service, and I pray it won't happen after Christmas Day services
>> >> either.  Hope that was an adequate explanation.  Paul
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>> >> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> >> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:53 PM
>> >> Subject: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Dear list, First, as someone wi!th a doctorate in theology, I must 
>> >>> say
>> >>> I've not seen anywhere in scripture Christ refur to blindness as
>> >>> something to be looked upon as evil, and yet, the church tens to pity
>> >>> us. I've not seen this in my own church thank the Lord, but I know 
>> >>> some
>> >>> of you have. God allowed to be blind, and I don't need some faulse
>> >>> teacher to tell me to claim my healing, just so they can bum money 
>> >>> off
>> >>> me
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