[Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

justin williams justin.williams2 at gmail.com
Fri Dec 27 01:42:28 UTC 2013 

You have to decide on how far you can go with an adult group that is married
or older; their issues are different than ours'.  Also, to invest in a
church without an adults ministery with a good number of singles is a lot of
time and effort for those of us who are  seeking a relationship.  If you are
in search for a spiritual partner, and there are not the number of singles
in the church, then personally, I lose interest after a while; this is
merely a personal observation, and in no way is trying to indicate that one
should not attend whatever church they want which is meeting their spiritual
needs singles or not.  Maybe we could get together over skype or some sort
of conference; I don't have skype set up as of yet, so I must facilitate
that after Christmas.

-----Original Message-----
From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley
Bramlett
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2013 7:23 PM
To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

Julie,
If your church is so big its theatre style, I'm surprised it does not have a
young adults group.
There are two non denominational churches nearby with young adult groups.
But I'd really like to go to a mainline church, preferabilily Methodist, as
I was raised this way.
But I cannot find methodist groups near me.

I echo your sentaments by saying,
"I actually rather enjoy studying
with those who are older than I am, but since young adults(especially those
of us who are single), face different problems than older adults, I have
always wanted to be a part of this type of study as well."

That's why I want to connect with singles too.

Ashley

-----Original Message-----
From: Julie McGinnity
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2013 1:34 AM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness

I echo those of you who have been unsuccessful in finding a young adult
bible study.  This is quite difficult-blind or not.

I grew up(spending teenaged and college undergrad years) in a church like
the one you describe.  We had theater seating and a large congregation.  It
was sometimes difficult to make connections, but I felt like this was more
due to my age than my blindness.  I was younger than most the people in the
choir.  But eventually, I was able to make friends and connections.  I
actually rather enjoy studying with those who are older than I am, but since
young adults(especially those of us who are single), face different problems
than older adults, I have always wanted to be a part of this type of study
as well.




On 12/19/13, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
> I don't think it is ever good to agree with everything the preacher 
> says at any Church, they would then become God to people and saddly 
> that is what happens sometimes. Our Church could be considered 
> concervative when it comes to the family unit, but when it comes to 
> outreach, we have rock concerts, rap concerts, groups like Casting 
> Crowns, Mercey me or Gospel hip-hop rappers like Lecrae and Trip lee. 
> Our pastor is very close friends with the Billy Gram family and he is 
> also the board member president of Liberty university out in Verginia. 
> He has a good handle on what is going on in the world and is all about 
> people getting saved and then living out an abundent Christian life 
> and both sharing and receiving the love of Christ.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>
>
>> Is this because you go to a conservative non denominational church?
>> We have a huge church which is conservative. They do the stuff you 
>> described. They have a transportation ministry, but I don't know the 
>> extent it runs.
>> Lots of classes for all sorts of people, have a counseling ministry, 
>> support groups, groups for men and women, and also a lot of outreach 
>> ministries.
>> However, due to their stand on marriage, gay lifestyle, and wishing 
>> to evangilize people from the Great commission command, it has put 
>> some people off including criticism from liberal newspapers.
>> It's the same church Dad and I went to for a few years.
>> I am a moderate believer politically and spiritually; so I don't 
>> agree with all the preacher says.
>> I did like the music and most of the preaching; it was like hearing a 
>> mini
>>
>> concert.
>>
>> My biggest issue with this conservative evangelical church was that 
>> they showed movies which I did not know what it was about sometimes, 
>> and they had a screen with the  notes for the service. The screen had 
>> everything from event announcements at the beginning, to sermon 
>> notes, to words to songs.
>> Obviously, I could not access this. I tried to find a point of 
>> contact to get it in alternate format through the access ministry, 
>> the minstry for people with disabilities, but was not successful.
>> Perhaps if I go back, I'll try again and be more persistant.
>>
>> So I have mixed feelings about churches.
>>
>> Ashley
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Poppa Bear
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 11:58 AM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>
>> Moreene, our Churches sound very simular in many ways. The thing is, 
>> though our church has programs like yours, and has the only church 
>> with a bus ministry that goes around the intire city to pick up and 
>> drop off children, our church comes under atack for being too much of 
>> a light in our town, we have an extremely libral news paper that 
>> hates our Church, but at the same time, our church bends over 
>> backwards to do so much for our intire state.
>> We
>> have so many programs for those in need, classes every week for 
>> adiction problems, PTSD, vetrin programs, widow asistance and on and 
>> on, but we take Biblical posissions very seriously when it comes to 
>> marriage, preaching the word and living out the great comission and 
>> it has rubbed plenty of people the wrong way, that is until they 
>> spend some time at the Church and feel the love and community that is 
>> there.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Maureen Pranghofer" <maureensmusic at comcast.net>
>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2013 6:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>
>>
>>> Your church sounds lots like ours.  It's a large church, about 5000 
>>> members and they say right off the bat "If you want to get 
>>> connected, become involved, people won't come to you."  Consequently 
>>> I have written music for the church, was on worship team for years, 
>>> have contributed and
>>>
>>> been in Bible studies, am the scheduler for a ministry doing home 
>>> repair to widows and abused women and disabled folks, am a hospital 
>>> and nursing home visitor and in a prayer group.  My husband is 
>>> taking his 7th trip to
>>>
>>> Haiti where the church built a home for disabled children.  Even 
>>> though he is in a wheelchair and born with no arms they let him do 
>>> this.  So we enjoy giving. The church had done lots of ome 
>>> mantainance things for us, put up our Christmas tree, has youth come 
>>> once a month to help with whatever we have need of doing, provided 
>>> me a reader, and as been involved in our lives in so many ways but 
>>> it's because the church is not the organization, leadership or 
>>> building it's the people.  We do exposatory preaching working our 
>>> way through Bible books week after week just a few verses at a time.  
>>> Took the congregation 5 years to study Matthew.  Maybe there is a 
>>> relationship between ow the church is in the Word and the way people 
>>> are treated, don't know just wondering.  I apologize for this being so
long.
>>> Maureen
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Poppa Bear
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 10:13 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>>
>>> This is all diffirent for me and sounds a little odd because in my 
>>> case I
>>>
>>> am
>>> usually the care taker for those around me, I invite those who have 
>>> less over for dinner, xmas, and Thanksgiving. We end up being a 
>>> small refuge for quite a few families and have a couple give and 
>>> take open door relationships with members of my Church. I have a 
>>> gentlemen  who is faithful as a grandfather clock to call me every 
>>> friday to see if I want to go to the mens breakfast and pick me up 
>>> bright and early every time. Another lady picks up my girls every 
>>> morning to take them to the Christian school. The thing is that our 
>>> Pastor really drives home the point of living out active Christian 
>>> lives that consist of faithful Christian service that leads to great 
>>> oppertunities to love and bless others and as people start to listen 
>>> to his preaching from the word they find that the truth that "it is 
>>> better to give then to receive" is a faithful and tru promis. Never 
>>> the less I am sure that there are plenty of broken and lonely hearts 
>>> in my Church just dying for a closer relationship with somebody in 
>>> the body.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:10 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>>
>>>
>>>> Unforchantely, that is all to comon place. RJ
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Paul" <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 9:02 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I've an answer to this problem about the church pitying us because 
>>>>> of our blindness, and I read this statement many years ago in a 
>>>>> book about
>>>>>
>>>>> blind welfare from the RNIB.  The main reason, as I and the author 
>>>>> of the book see it, is that there is yet no practical substitution 
>>>>> to the human eye. For some deaf and hard of hearing people there 
>>>>> is the cochlear implant and for people who have lost limbs or arms 
>>>>> there are artificial ones which, although naturally not like the 
>>>>> originals in their totality, nevertheless work to some extent.  
>>>>> Unfortunately even in my church, even though they don't pity me, 
>>>>> no one will invite me over to their place for a meal and some good 
>>>>> conversation.  This happened after our Thanksgiving Day service, 
>>>>> and I pray it won't happen
>>>>>
>>>>> after Christmas Day services either.  Hope that was an adequate 
>>>>> explanation.  Paul
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
>>>>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:53 PM
>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] being healed from blindness
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear list, First, as someone wi!th a doctorate in theology, I 
>>>>>> must say
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've not seen anywhere in scripture Christ refur to blindness as 
>>>>>> something to be looked upon as evil, and yet, the church tens to 
>>>>>> pity us. I've not seen this in my own church thank the Lord, but 
>>>>>> I know some of you have. God allowed to be blind, and I don't 
>>>>>> need some faulse teacher to tell me to claim my healing, just so 
>>>>>> they can bum money off me 
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--
Julie McG
National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National Federation
of the Blind performing arts division secretary, Missouri Association of
Guide dog Users President, and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008 "For
God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who
believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life."
John 3:16

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