[Faith-talk] Advice and prayers

Fri Nov 29 04:11:54 UTC 2013

Actually the first early Christian did it with Constantine a pope from the Catholic Church who appease the pagans by celebrating mass or whatever on Sunday the day at the son God.
Jenny

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> On Nov 28, 2013, at 9:42 PM, "John J. Boyer" <john at godtouches.org> wrote:
> 
> Very early in the history of Christianity the celebration of the Sabbath 
> was moved from Saturday to Sunday, because it is the day on which Jesus 
> rose from the dead. There are several references in the new Testament to 
> celebration of the Lord's Supper on the first day of the week. This day 
> is also called the Lord's Day at the beginninng of Revelations. 
> 
> John
> 
>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 07:52:21PM -0600, Snow White Dove wrote:
>> Thank you Doris.
>> I like the Adventist Church. Everything is accessible to me in braille or audio or whatever I needed in.
>> It is biblically the same as a standard Church. With the exception of the Sabbath. Which was not just celebrate celebrate by the Jews, but was celebrated before then at the very beginning since it was the seventh day.
>> 
>> The only other major difference. Is that we have a different look on death.
>> Instead of poop you dying you go to heaven. You go to sleep until the second coming of Christ and then your raised body and soul to heaven. If you're righteous.
>> Their stuff after that. But it basically the same thing as everybody else.
>> Jenny
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Nov 28, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Doris and Chris <chipmunks at gmx.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was going to suggest the same, dear sister. To my knowledge, Adventists do not use any literature additional to the Bible. They vary in their interpretation of scripture to a degree that they place emphasis on celebrating the Sabath as the jews do from friday night to Saturday evening. I am not aware of them making salvation dependent on this nor denounsing other Christians' salvation for not agreeing with them.
>>> 
>>> I would not give much to what other people say or how they react should you change churches or denoniminatial affiliation. There was no such thing at the time of Christ. Christ was a Jew and did not come to form a new jewish sect but change the way people related to God and he wanted to do what only he could since the fall - bridge the gap between God himself by taking his sin on for us.
>>> 
>>> Finally, if I believe in a persnal relationship with God and to God, it is not mine to judge how a person relates to God. I will certainly voice my opinion and do not shy away from discussion .
>>> 
>>> For my personal journey of faith or walk with God, I almost always wound up amidst the underdogs: with church of christ harding University community, Chris and I on our second day there, met a gurl that attended a house church formed by one of the university's professors that was sort of blacklisted because they did not have elders and basically were just a small house church and christians that lived and shared their faith together. with the catholic church, I ended up fellowshipping at a local church that had their own don Camillo of sorts who had been sent to a small conservative congregation for his political and social activities at his former church and promptly turned the new church around by introducing them to having breakfast together between services and just relating as church family.
>>> 
>>> My theLord richly bless you in your walk with him and draw you ever closer. He is all that matters.
>>> 
>>> In his grip of grace!
>>> 
>>> Doris
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At 08:36 AM 11/28/2013 -0900, you wrote:
>>>> Hello sister, Here are a few things I think you need to ask about either religion, do they both completely depend on the work of Jesus Christ for your salvation? Do either require ceremonies, keeping the law, doing certain works that if you don't do them your are not saved anymore? Perhaps it is time for a full step by step journey through the new testament and try to understand what the Savior really said about salvation, not a couple passages here and there, but find out who Jesus was and is and what he really came to do for you, and what it means to be his daughter and how thorough, intimate and complete his amazing love for his children is. Also, how did people become saved before there was a "7 day Adventist Church" and a "Roman Catholic Church"? What did Jesus tell Nicodemus about salvation? What about the Ethiopian who was saved in the book of Acts, or the Jailer or the 5000 on the day of Pentecost, within some of the examples of people becoming saved in the Bible perhaps you will find some clarity to help you make a sound decision that will give you peace.
>>>> 
>>>> In his loving grip
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Snow White Dove" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "for the discussion of faith and religion Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:21 AM
>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Advice and prayers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm writing this to ask you for prayers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think some of you know that I have been wrestling with the decision to stay Roman Catholic, or to be at the 7th day adventist faith.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I believe that the lord is leading me to the latter.
>>>>> It is a church based on the Bible and not mysticism..
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's the way I was brought up.
>>>>> My best friends are hard core Catholic and I know they will try to convince me to stay.
>>>>> I'm not feeling the spirit there any more, and I just am so drawn, or lead to the adventist church.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please give me your take on this matter and more importantly, pray that I make the right decisions.
>>>>> To
>>>>> I know my friends will accept my decision in time and will not abandon me.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Again, please pray for me. To
>>>>> Jenny
>>>>> 
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