[Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism

Sun Oct 27 12:51:43 UTC 2013

Are you saying that baptized as a baby like the catholics do is not the
right way? I am referring to the part about the emphant.

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Clark Music
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Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism

correct, obey god's word. 
 You cannot find one person in the scriptures that was Baptized in the name
of the Father and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Not one! However, you
can find thousands of disciples being baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus
Christ. I do mean thousands! You can also find this information in more than
one place. We are buried with Him by Baptism into death. ROMANS 6:4  acts
2:38  Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in
the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins , and ye shall receive
the gift of the Holy Ghost. 

 acts 10:48
 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed
they him to tarry certain days.  
 acts 19:5
 When they heard [this], they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.  
 I PETER 3:21
 The like figure whereunto [even] baptism doth also now save us (not the
putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience
toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:  

 If you have been baptized as an infant, without repentance, you have not
been baptized according to the teaching of the scriptures. Religion has
defiled the clear word of God and has become a false teaching.The Scriptures
are always true. The Apostles understood the importance of the water baptism
and were taught by our Lord Jesus. Thousands of born again believers where
baptized in Jesus' name. This is what the scriptures prove over and over
again. I would rather obey YHWH's word than any man's tradition. Please read
all of the scriptures carefully and realize that y ou cannot take care of
spiritual problems with natural means.  
 john 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no
man cometh unto the Father, but by me. 
 we baptize in the name of jesus because he is the only way. 1 Corinthians
12:13   
  - For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether [we be]
Jews or Gentiles, whether [we be] bond or free; and have been all made to
drink into one Spirit. 

 another good verse is romans 6:3 that tells us,  - Know ye not, that so
many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 
 Titus 3:5   
  - Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his
mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy
Ghost; 
 Ephesians 4:5    is  vary clear,  - One Lord, one faith, one baptism. 
 so, i hope this helps.
On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:58 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't really need to brother Tim, I just need to obey the words of the
Master. Why mince words?
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> 
> show me 1  accation where someone in the bible was baptized in the father
son and wholly spirit..
> On Oct 26, 2013, at 4:26 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Most all evangelical Christianity holds the believe of the trinity, you
know, "Baptize in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost." "Father
restore me to the glory I had before the world began", "I send the Holy
Spirit to be with you." God's spirit was above the water, God spoke to Adam
and Eve in the garden and prophesied to them about the son of the woman who
will bruze the head of the serpent. "The Father of our Lord Jesus Christ"
"This is my son whom I am well pleased with" "Father Father, why have you
forsaken me?" "No one comes to the Father except through me." "I do nothing
without my father" "Our father in heaven."
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Timothy Clark Music" 
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>> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 12:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] To Linda re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>> 
>> 
>> first, they subscribe to the trinity. listen to adventures in odyssey.
secondly, listen to some of their guests on the FOF daily podcasts as they
teach about truth.
>> it's trinitairian.
>> it's secular teachings.
>> there advice isn't bad but you just have to be careful. don't soke their
teachings like a spundge.
>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 3:51 PM, Poppa Bear <heavens4real at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Focus on the family is a minystry providing Christians with resources to
raise their children in a Christian context, not a Christian teaching
mynistry. What is secular to you about there ministry?
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>>> 
>>> urggh, focus on the family.
>>> good grief.
>>> it's a good resource if you want secular teachings.
>>> i like
>>> http://www.voe.org
>>> and
>>> 
>>> http://www.jhm.org
>>> http://triumphtoday.org
>>> all nonsecular teachings that preach the truth of jesus christ.
>>> On Oct 26, 2013, at 7:56 AM, Mark H <mark.h1956 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> re: Christian Mystic / Mysticism
>>>> Here is an article from wikipedia to give you a definition.--  
>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_mysticism
>>>> To me this reeks of heresy. A good place to check out questions of
orthodoxy is Hank Hanegraaff [The Bible Answer Man] web site www.equip.org.
James Dobson's Focus on the Family is also a great please to find
information -- www.focudonthefamily.com.
>>>> Hope this helps!
>>>> Diane
>>>> 
>>>> 
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