[Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.

Timothy Clark Music timothyclarkmusic at me.com
Tue Sep 3 16:43:51 UTC 2013 

andrew, as you know, we are in the last days. 
 there are those who arrest christians just because they preach the truth. 
 and yes, here in america by the way. 
 so, you might as well start out with the online church as it's mostly the same as a church in a building. 
 the problem with transpertation to a church is you can't always depend on your rides you set up. 
 believe me, i should know. i know they say plann plann plann. 
 sure, go ahead but when the time comes fur you to go guess what, they might just forget about you. 
 i've had things like that happen to me. 
 people care about going to church when most of them don't teach from the bible. 
 they're luke warm. 
 i want to be birning hot for the lord.
Timothy 
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On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Andrew wrote:

> I belong to a community called icc and things it is an online
> community to check it out go to www.iccsite.com  the thing is  this I
> feel that the church is not the building as  long as we have contact
> with other believers.  so I think an online church or online site
> counts.  yes  I can see where people are coming from though on this
> topic.  but my biggest concern is so many churches are straying away
> from the bible the word of god and preach feel good messages  and not
> preaching the word as it is in the bible.  there might come a time
> when  we may have to settle for home churches or do church online in
> order to seek contact  with other believers. think about it this way
> would you rather go somewhere that is not preaching the bible if
> staying home and seeking an online church  and I would be picking the
> online church.  over going to a church that does not preach the bible
> allot of churches are straying from the word I feel.
> 
> On 9/3/13, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>> hi i've  thought about making rides with parentransit every week, to get to
>> church.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
>> 
>>> Jenny,
>>> I agree.  A church doesn't have to have some formal transportation
>>> ministry for someone to be able to get a ride.  I have called several
>>> churches and expressed my desire to visit but my lack of transportation
>>> and they have called me back within a few days, usually with someone who
>>> would be able to pick me up.  Sometimes I have taken a cab for the first
>>> week or even first couple weeks so that I can meet the pastors and some
>>> people before I ask about finding a ride with someone.  I find that often
>>> people ask me how I got to church and its an easy opportunity to explain
>>> that I took a cab this morning but that I am hoping to find someone who
>>> attends the church and lives in my area so that I might be able to
>>> carpool.  Even if you find someone, transportation can be tricky because
>>> often people aren't there every sunday and so you might need two or three
>>> options to make sure you have a ride each week.  This isn't easy but it is
>>> also a great way to build relationships with people in your church.  I
>>> know transportation to church can be very discouraging.  I still end up
>>> taking a cab to church some weeks and it really gets me down when I do.
>>> But I would encourage everyone to continue trying, to not be afraid to put
>>> yourself out there and explain your need and ask.  Most people wouldn't
>>> think about how we have a hard time getting to church.  If we let enough
>>> people know, and do so in appropriate ways, someone will eventually
>>> listen.
>>> 
>>> For another option, in Nashville, I ended up finding a church that I could
>>> walk to from my house.  It wasn't exactly the denomination church I had
>>> been looking for but it was similar enough and it meant a lot to me to be
>>> able to get to church on my own.  Depending on where you live, this may
>>> also be an option.
>>> 
>>> I hope some of these thoughts are helpful to some of you.
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> 
>>> Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
>>> Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
>>> Cobb County School District
>>> gpaikens at gmail.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Snow White Dove <jlperdue3 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I would agree.
>>>> 
>>>> when I wanted to try a new church here in town a ouple of weeks ago.  I
>>>> simply called them and asked if they could find a ride for me.  It was an
>>>> answered prayer from GOd as there was no secretary at the church at th
>>>> time, but someone answered the phone that morning at that call.
>>>> 
>>>> within 24 hours, he and an elder from the church came to my home and
>>>> gladly picked me up for church.
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, prayer is so important.  Liability is an issue with hutches.  but
>>>> simply calling and putting a bug in their ear, and telling how important
>>>> tht it is to you to attend church, and how much you would truly value
>>>> their help makes all the difference.
>>>> 
>>>> try and talk to a pastor if you can, but if not, just know that whomever
>>>> you speak to may be just the person that the LORD wants to hear your
>>>> plea.
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny and Shasta
>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:24 PM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>>>> <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> Specifically pray that God would provide transportation and see what
>>>>> happens.
>>>>> Our church is huge but when they wanted to provide transportation they
>>>>> seriously looked into it and asked me to contact other churches to see
>>>>> what they did and what I found was that most churches don't provide any
>>>>> formal transportation because the liability insurance rates are
>>>>> astronomical.
>>>>> I believe it happens more because you get a relationship with someone in
>>>>> a church, get to know them and start asking for rides.  But God can put
>>>>> anything together.  I might suggest chat groups as well because then you
>>>>> have real people with real voices.
>>>>> Maureen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Snow White Dove
>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 12:34 PM
>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, I see that, but there are the larger churches that have
>>>>> transportation if you call and ask.  Even the smaller ones will try to
>>>>> make arrangements. Again, it's about how bad do you want it.  How bad do
>>>>> you want to be in the house of the LORD.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Don't let blindness kill that desire.  It seems to me that you're
>>>>> discouraged, but that's the time when you really have to pray about it,
>>>>> and realize that this is what Satan wants.
>>>>> 
>>>>> jenny and Shasta
>>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 12:21 PM, "justin williams"
>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I do  get tired of fighting the transportation issues on Sunday when I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> just stay home in my bed though?   -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> rhonda
>>>>>> cruz
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 1:17 PM
>>>>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> hi i'm totally blind, i think getting out there, and meeting others,
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> wonderful,  vut we've got to do what is best for ourselves though.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Snow White Dove wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have been close to totally blind since birth, and I don't like the
>>>>>> movement that has been mafe to screens instead of using a book for
>>>>>> music,
>>>>>> especially since I'm a singer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> However, i don't think that there is any replacement for fellowship
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>> actually being among fellow christians in person and feeling the Holy
>>>>>> Spirit.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> some churches will be happy to email you the words to the music if
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>> can figure out how to get it from power point to a document format.
>>>>>> You
>>>>>> just have to ask and be persistent.  also, just sit down with your
>>>>>> pastor if
>>>>>> needbe and explain that you don't feel a part of the worship service
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> the words to the songs, or whatever you are lacking.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If we just hide away in our houses and do church there.  We're giving
>>>>>>> up
>>>>>> and the churches won't ever know how much this affects us and how to
>>>>>> help
>>>>>> us.  Which is what churches are supposed to be about.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Maybe try different churches to see where you fit in.
>>>>>>> don't be limitted to the status quo.  branch out to other things in
>>>>>>> the christian arena
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> You never know if you may find just where you belong.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jenny and Shasta
>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>>>>>> <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>> I do not believe that if God wanted us to see He would create us as
>>>>>> sighted. Otherwise Jesus would havedone no healing because everyone
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> have been whole at birth.
>>>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:12 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> If this isn't a joke, can you please spell correctly?
>>>>>>>> On the subject of seeing, if God wanted to have you see, he would
>>>>>>>> create you as sighted.
>>>>>>>> But he created us the way we are for a reason including the
>>>>>>>> characteristic that we cannot see.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:00 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> if you can see it beeleeve it then you can a cheeve it. dont forget
>>>>>>>> to pray. dont beeafreade to pray. prayer changes things!Chikodinaka
>>>>>>>> Happiness&Obianuju. One Love Keep Us Together. our motto song
>>>>>>>> &slogan!
>>>>>>>> mom told mee this at childbirth. if you try you will SekSeed. try
>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>> try agan. for if you pursivear. you will conker neverfear. try try
>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>> agan|. in the words of w h u r's f m. Jacky Gails Webb! may the
>>>>>>>> grace
>>>>>>>> of god save you. may the will of god guide you&may the love of god
>>>>>>>> shine thru you i wont to see like my wife my adonnaWife. I have ben
>>>>>>>> blind sence childbirth, can i start seeing? agan or i will bee
>>>>>>>> blind4ever?
>>>>>>>> 
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