[Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.

Timothy Clark Music timothyclarkmusic at me.com
Tue Sep 3 19:34:36 UTC 2013


andrew, i've been threatened because of my faith and thethings i stand for. 
 i would rather die for christ then to live in this world of sin and distruction. 
 now, i like this world but the thrill of knowing the lord is more then enough to convence me that i would rather be with jesus then in the world. 
 this is why i gave my life to him. this is why christ is in control. 
Timothy 
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On Sep 3, 2013, at 2:19 PM, Andrew wrote:

> I agree with timothy and I don't care if anybody gets mad at me or
> timothy but the thing is  this  if we are going to stay luke warm
> then it is just no use the bible says luke warm Christians  will get
> spat out like vomit.  the thing is this people need to stop telling
> others they are Christian especially  if they are not going to live
> it.  the thing  is this Christians are known by their spiritual  not
> just through the  good deeds or  the physical stuff we do.  a
> Christian is somebody who should be true follower of the bible  but
> unfortunately  allot of churches are saying it is okay to  mary gay
> couples  I am not saying all are doing it but  allot are or will be
> once time goes on here and who ever refuses may be in big trouble for
> speaking against gay couples for example.
> So are we going to stand up for Christian  or  god are we going to
> let the world dicktate what we can and can't do.  if we are Christians
> are we going to just do nothing in truth if we are going to be afraid
> of being arrested or are we going to take that chance these are hard
> questions but  I feel if you are not suffering purseacution then you
> may not be doing the true work of the lord that is my opinion.   I am
> seeing the lack of people even  not going to group prayer even and
> that is just not right if you ask me.  yes private  prayer is
> important but   the thing is this if we can't even gater   in prayer
> as Christians  then I feel like I have to wonder if they really are
> devout. not only that  are we really on fire for god. not only that
> is this what is taking your time away from praying with others for
> example if  it is because you are you feel have to watch  your
> favourite show yes it is nice to relax but  if we are to be out for
> god then we need to start making sackerfises in our lives.
> 
> On 9/3/13, Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com> wrote:
>> andrew, as you know, we are in the last days.
>> there are those who arrest christians just because they preach the truth.
>> and yes, here in america by the way.
>> so, you might as well start out with the online church as it's mostly the
>> same as a church in a building.
>> the problem with transpertation to a church is you can't always depend on
>> your rides you set up.
>> believe me, i should know. i know they say plann plann plann.
>> sure, go ahead but when the time comes fur you to go guess what, they might
>> just forget about you.
>> i've had things like that happen to me.
>> people care about going to church when most of them don't teach from the
>> bible.
>> they're luke warm.
>> i want to be birning hot for the lord.
>> Timothy
>> Your friend in the music industry
>> follow me on twitter @timothyclark13
>> to check out music, photos, videos, press, show dates, and more go to
>> http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
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>> 7244011224
>> note, if i don't answer your call just leave me a voicemail and i'll get
>> back in contact with you as soon as possible
>> thanks and god bless
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:57 AM, Andrew wrote:
>> 
>>> I belong to a community called icc and things it is an online
>>> community to check it out go to www.iccsite.com  the thing is  this I
>>> feel that the church is not the building as  long as we have contact
>>> with other believers.  so I think an online church or online site
>>> counts.  yes  I can see where people are coming from though on this
>>> topic.  but my biggest concern is so many churches are straying away
>>> from the bible the word of god and preach feel good messages  and not
>>> preaching the word as it is in the bible.  there might come a time
>>> when  we may have to settle for home churches or do church online in
>>> order to seek contact  with other believers. think about it this way
>>> would you rather go somewhere that is not preaching the bible if
>>> staying home and seeking an online church  and I would be picking the
>>> online church.  over going to a church that does not preach the bible
>>> allot of churches are straying from the word I feel.
>>> 
>>> On 9/3/13, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> hi i've  thought about making rides with parentransit every week, to get
>>>> to
>>>> church.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 6:23 PM, Greg Aikens wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jenny,
>>>>> I agree.  A church doesn't have to have some formal transportation
>>>>> ministry for someone to be able to get a ride.  I have called several
>>>>> churches and expressed my desire to visit but my lack of transportation
>>>>> and they have called me back within a few days, usually with someone
>>>>> who
>>>>> would be able to pick me up.  Sometimes I have taken a cab for the
>>>>> first
>>>>> week or even first couple weeks so that I can meet the pastors and some
>>>>> people before I ask about finding a ride with someone.  I find that
>>>>> often
>>>>> people ask me how I got to church and its an easy opportunity to
>>>>> explain
>>>>> that I took a cab this morning but that I am hoping to find someone who
>>>>> attends the church and lives in my area so that I might be able to
>>>>> carpool.  Even if you find someone, transportation can be tricky
>>>>> because
>>>>> often people aren't there every sunday and so you might need two or
>>>>> three
>>>>> options to make sure you have a ride each week.  This isn't easy but it
>>>>> is
>>>>> also a great way to build relationships with people in your church.  I
>>>>> know transportation to church can be very discouraging.  I still end up
>>>>> taking a cab to church some weeks and it really gets me down when I do.
>>>>> But I would encourage everyone to continue trying, to not be afraid to
>>>>> put
>>>>> yourself out there and explain your need and ask.  Most people wouldn't
>>>>> think about how we have a hard time getting to church.  If we let
>>>>> enough
>>>>> people know, and do so in appropriate ways, someone will eventually
>>>>> listen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For another option, in Nashville, I ended up finding a church that I
>>>>> could
>>>>> walk to from my house.  It wasn't exactly the denomination church I had
>>>>> been looking for but it was similar enough and it meant a lot to me to
>>>>> be
>>>>> able to get to church on my own.  Depending on where you live, this may
>>>>> also be an option.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope some of these thoughts are helpful to some of you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Greg Aikens, M. Ed.
>>>>> Teacher of students who are blind and visually impaired
>>>>> Cobb County School District
>>>>> gpaikens at gmail.com
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 8:42 PM, Snow White Dove <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would agree.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> when I wanted to try a new church here in town a ouple of weeks ago.
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> simply called them and asked if they could find a ride for me.  It was
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> answered prayer from GOd as there was no secretary at the church at th
>>>>>> time, but someone answered the phone that morning at that call.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> within 24 hours, he and an elder from the church came to my home and
>>>>>> gladly picked me up for church.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yes, prayer is so important.  Liability is an issue with hutches.  but
>>>>>> simply calling and putting a bug in their ear, and telling how
>>>>>> important
>>>>>> tht it is to you to attend church, and how much you would truly value
>>>>>> their help makes all the difference.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> try and talk to a pastor if you can, but if not, just know that
>>>>>> whomever
>>>>>> you speak to may be just the person that the LORD wants to hear your
>>>>>> plea.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenny and Shasta
>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 7:24 PM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>>>>>> <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>> Specifically pray that God would provide transportation and see what
>>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>> Our church is huge but when they wanted to provide transportation
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> seriously looked into it and asked me to contact other churches to
>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>> what they did and what I found was that most churches don't provide
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> formal transportation because the liability insurance rates are
>>>>>>> astronomical.
>>>>>>> I believe it happens more because you get a relationship with someone
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> a church, get to know them and start asking for rides.  But God can
>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>> anything together.  I might suggest chat groups as well because then
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> have real people with real voices.
>>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Snow White Dove
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 12:34 PM
>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> OK, I see that, but there are the larger churches that have
>>>>>>> transportation if you call and ask.  Even the smaller ones will try
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> make arrangements. Again, it's about how bad do you want it.  How bad
>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>> you want to be in the house of the LORD.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Don't let blindness kill that desire.  It seems to me that you're
>>>>>>> discouraged, but that's the time when you really have to pray about
>>>>>>> it,
>>>>>>> and realize that this is what Satan wants.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> jenny and Shasta
>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 12:21 PM, "justin williams"
>>>>>>> <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I do  get tired of fighting the transportation issues on Sunday when
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> just stay home in my bed though?   -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>>>> rhonda
>>>>>>>> cruz
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, September 02, 2013 1:17 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> hi i'm totally blind, i think getting out there, and meeting others,
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> wonderful,  vut we've got to do what is best for ourselves though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Snow White Dove wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I have been close to totally blind since birth, and I don't like
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> movement that has been mafe to screens instead of using a book for
>>>>>>>> music,
>>>>>>>> especially since I'm a singer.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> However, i don't think that there is any replacement for fellowship
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> actually being among fellow christians in person and feeling the
>>>>>>>> Holy
>>>>>>>> Spirit.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> some churches will be happy to email you the words to the music if
>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>> can figure out how to get it from power point to a document format.
>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>> just have to ask and be persistent.  also, just sit down with your
>>>>>>>> pastor if
>>>>>>>> needbe and explain that you don't feel a part of the worship service
>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>> the words to the songs, or whatever you are lacking.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If we just hide away in our houses and do church there.  We're
>>>>>>>>> giving
>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>> and the churches won't ever know how much this affects us and how to
>>>>>>>> help
>>>>>>>> us.  Which is what churches are supposed to be about.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Maybe try different churches to see where you fit in.
>>>>>>>>> don't be limitted to the status quo.  branch out to other things in
>>>>>>>>> the christian arena
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> You never know if you may find just where you belong.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jenny and Shasta
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>>>>>>>> <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>> I do not believe that if God wanted us to see He would create us
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> sighted. Otherwise Jesus would havedone no healing because everyone
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> have been whole at birth.
>>>>>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:12 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> If this isn't a joke, can you please spell correctly?
>>>>>>>>>> On the subject of seeing, if God wanted to have you see, he would
>>>>>>>>>> create you as sighted.
>>>>>>>>>> But he created us the way we are for a reason including the
>>>>>>>>>> characteristic that we cannot see.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:00 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> if you can see it beeleeve it then you can a cheeve it. dont
>>>>>>>>>> forget
>>>>>>>>>> to pray. dont beeafreade to pray. prayer changes
>>>>>>>>>> things!Chikodinaka
>>>>>>>>>> Happiness&Obianuju. One Love Keep Us Together. our motto song
>>>>>>>>>> &slogan!
>>>>>>>>>> mom told mee this at childbirth. if you try you will SekSeed. try
>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>> try agan. for if you pursivear. you will conker neverfear. try try
>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>> agan|. in the words of w h u r's f m. Jacky Gails Webb! may the
>>>>>>>>>> grace
>>>>>>>>>> of god save you. may the will of god guide you&may the love of god
>>>>>>>>>> shine thru you i wont to see like my wife my adonnaWife. I have
>>>>>>>>>> ben
>>>>>>>>>> blind sence childbirth, can i start seeing? agan or i will bee
>>>>>>>>>> blind4ever?
>>>>>>>>>> 
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