[Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.

Wed Sep 4 00:45:56 UTC 2013

Andrew,
Nothing could be further from the truth! Many large churches, mainly the 
evangelical churches, do reach out.
They are growing and growing.  They are very Christ centered. For instance 
the evangelical church me and my dad tried has 6 campuses or more! They not 
only have small groups, but larger groups to study the word. I don't know 
where you get such ideas that saintain is infultrating the church.
You said
"if we soon don't get serious about god  he will for sure take his hand
off the church. this is the last days.  "

Well, I can tell you that I was raised Methodist and those Christian friends 
who were raised in the church
knew about God and ethical values and what Christianity meant.
Churches do reach out. Examples are websites where sermons are posted 
online, newcomer classes, discipleship classes, small groups, and numerous 
fellowship activities.

I'd have to say you are truly missing a lot by sitting around at home in 
front of  a computer. You miss the fellowship. You miss sharing your views 
with others in person. You miss the fact that people come up and know you by 
name and ask how things are going.

I'm not saying you have to go to the brick and
mourter church to be a good Christian. But I feel you will have a deeper 
experience going to one.
You raised the issue about transportation. Maybe if you voice your needs to 
someone in a nearby church they will help you.
I feel you gave up on church before trying to make a bigger effort to get 
there.

I know how it is not feeling fully included.  experienced this a lot in 
youth group and even sunday school before they got the readings in braille.

But still we should reach out and try.

I think educating any community including the church is a long road and the 
road is easier
if more of us participate.

Ashley

-----Original Message----- 
From: Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:18 PM
To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.

but I feel we shouldn't tell people that they have to go to a brick
and morte church  at all. that is not our job I feel.  online churches
are as affective as the  off line churches. like the community I am
part of has people in it that have been hurt by the brick and morter
church.  so she is not going back she would rather take part in online
churches.  there is nothing wrong with online churches. I feel we as
Christians should not be telling people they have to go to a brick and
morter church. Satan and I hate to say this but satan has the brick
and morter church is in his grasp because people are not fighting
back and getting the victory we need is souls coming to Christ.  and
if we soon don't get serious about god  he will for sure take his hand
off the church. this is the last days.  as timothy said. we are to
dependent on a church building churches are not reaching out for souls
and  satan has as I said the church as a whole in his grasp people are
to blind to see it. Christians truly are not standing up for god.

On 9/3/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Jenny, I totally agree. I know that the internet wasn't around when
> the Bible was inspired, but I don't believe that Hebrews 10:24-25
> means that it's OK to stay home and worship with others via the
> computer. It's unfortunate that that's the only way for some of the
> blind community to go to church. It lets church members off the hook,
> or so they think.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Linda
>
> At 12:11 PM 9/2/2013, you wrote:
>>I have been close to totally blind since birth, and I don't like the
>>movement that has been mafe to screens instead of using a book for
>>music, especially since I'm a singer.
>>
>>However, i don't think that there is any replacement for fellowship
>>and actually being among fellow christians in person and feeling the
>>Holy Spirit.
>>
>>some churches will be happy to email you the words to the music if
>>they can figure out how to get it from power point to a document
>>format.  You just have to ask and be persistent.  also, just sit
>>down with your pastor if needbe and explain that you don't feel a
>>part of the worship service without the words to the songs, or
>>whatever you are lacking.
>>
>>If we just hide away in our houses and do church there.  We're
>>giving up and the churches won't ever know how much this affects us
>>and how to help us.  Which is what churches are supposed to be about.
>>
>>Maybe try different churches to see where you fit in.
>>don't be limitted to the status quo.  branch out to other things in
>>the christian arena
>>
>>You never know if you may find just where you belong.
>>
>>Jenny and Shasta
>>On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>><maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> > I do not believe that if God wanted us to see He would create us
>> as sighted. Otherwise Jesus would havedone no healing because
>> everyone would have been whole at birth.
>> > Maureen
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:12 PM
>> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> > If this isn't a joke, can you please spell correctly?
>> > On the subject of seeing, if God wanted to have you see, he would
>> create you
>> > as sighted.
>> > But he created us the way we are for a reason including the
>> > characteristic
>> > that we cannot see.
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo
>> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:00 PM
>> > To: Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> > Subject: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>> >
>> > --
>> > if you can see it beeleeve it then you can a cheeve it. dont forget to
>> > pray. dont beeafreade to pray. prayer changes things!Chikodinaka
>> > Happiness&Obianuju. One Love Keep Us Together. our motto song &slogan!
>> > mom told mee this at childbirth. if you try you will SekSeed. try try
>> > try agan. for if you pursivear. you will conker neverfear. try try try
>> > agan|. in the words of w h u r's f m. Jacky Gails Webb! may the grace
>> > of god save you. may the will of god guide you&may the love of god
>> > shine thru you
>> > i wont to see like my wife my adonnaWife. I have ben blind sence
>> > childbirth, can i start seeing? agan or i will bee blind4ever?
>> >
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