[Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.

Wed Sep 4 01:26:49 UTC 2013

the thing is though  I tell how I feel and if it is not liked that is
the other persons problem.  allot of churches just don't preach the
true word of god  I challenge you to do this name one church that
actually preaches the word of god and a well known one.

On 9/3/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
> Andrew, it's not what you feel that matters, but what God's Word
> says. Please don't lump all churches into one or two categories.
> There are still many good churches. Please take care not to offend
> anyone here. You don't have all the answers; none of us does.
> Computer churches are just as likely to err as are brick and mortar ones.
>
> Blessings,
>
> Linda
>
> At 08:15 PM 9/3/2013, you wrote:
>>and just because a church is growing and things does not mean it is a
>>good church.  because there are allot of pastors that preach  a luke
>>warm message just to attract numbers and  give them a warm comfortable
>>pew things like that.  so the thing is having these big churches are
>>not always good.  after all it shouldn't be about the numbers it
>>should be  teaching the bible and the hard truth of what the word says
>>not man says.  and most churches are about money.  some churches have
>>become so rich it seems that it is not even funny. I am not saying
>>lots of money or being rich is bad but  how are we using it to get
>>welth and prosperity the thing is this  god's idea of prosperity is
>>being in him and his kingdom.   besides we can't take our pozessions
>>to heaven we can't take our money to heaven just souls that come to
>>Christ.  I feel like allot of churches are just storeing up treasure
>>on earth in things.   I feel that today's church is just so luke warm
>>as I said earlier until people get serious   there is no sence in
>>calling ourselves Christian.
>>
>>On 9/3/13, Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com> wrote:
>> > Ashley, they might be teaching from the bible but are they teaching it
>> > correctly.
>> >  for example, do they teach that the god head is 3 rapped up into
>> the son of
>> > god jesus christ?
>> >  this is why when prayers are said we say father or jesus.
>> >  they are all 3 rapped into 1 god head.
>> >  and, when they baptize, do they baptize in the name of jesus or father
>> > son
>> > and holy ghost.
>> >  there's a lot that goes on that people accept that just is not
>> > correct.
>> >  i'm not saying your church is wrong just that there are a lot that
>> > are.
>> >
>> > Timothy
>> >  Your friend in the music industry
>> >  follow me on twitter @timothyclark13
>> >  to check out music, photos, videos, press, show dates, and more go to
>> > http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
>> >  feel free to give me a call at
>> >  7244011224
>> >  note, if i don't answer your call just leave me a voicemail and i'll
>> > get
>> > back in contact with you as soon as possible
>> >  thanks and god bless
>> >
>> > On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>> >
>> >> Andrew,
>> >> Nothing could be further from the truth! Many large churches, mainly
>> >> the
>> >> evangelical churches, do reach out.
>> >> They are growing and growing.  They are very Christ centered. For
>> >> instance
>> >> the evangelical church me and my dad tried has 6 campuses or more!
>> >> They
>> >> not only have small groups, but larger groups to study the word. I
>> >> don't
>> >> know where you get such ideas that saintain is infultrating the
>> >> church.
>> >> You said
>> >> "if we soon don't get serious about god  he will for sure take his
>> >> hand
>> >> off the church. this is the last days.  "
>> >>
>> >> Well, I can tell you that I was raised Methodist and those Christian
>> >> friends who were raised in the church
>> >> knew about God and ethical values and what Christianity meant.
>> >> Churches do reach out. Examples are websites where sermons are posted
>> >> online, newcomer classes, discipleship classes, small groups, and
>> >> numerous
>> >> fellowship activities.
>> >>
>> >> I'd have to say you are truly missing a lot by sitting around at home
>> >> in
>> >> front of  a computer. You miss the fellowship. You miss sharing your
>> >> views
>> >> with others in person. You miss the fact that people come up and know
>> >> you
>> >> by name and ask how things are going.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not saying you have to go to the brick and
>> >> mourter church to be a good Christian. But I feel you will have a
>> >> deeper
>> >> experience going to one.
>> >> You raised the issue about transportation. Maybe if you voice your
>> >> needs
>> >> to someone in a nearby church they will help you.
>> >> I feel you gave up on church before trying to make a bigger effort to
>> >> get
>> >> there.
>> >>
>> >> I know how it is not feeling fully included.  experienced this a lot
>> >> in
>> >> youth group and even sunday school before they got the readings in
>> >> braille.
>> >>
>> >> But still we should reach out and try.
>> >>
>> >> I think educating any community including the church is a long road
>> >> and
>> >> the road is easier
>> >> if more of us participate.
>> >>
>> >> Ashley
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew
>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:18 PM
>> >> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>> >>
>> >> but I feel we shouldn't tell people that they have to go to a brick
>> >> and morte church  at all. that is not our job I feel.  online churches
>> >> are as affective as the  off line churches. like the community I am
>> >> part of has people in it that have been hurt by the brick and morter
>> >> church.  so she is not going back she would rather take part in online
>> >> churches.  there is nothing wrong with online churches. I feel we as
>> >> Christians should not be telling people they have to go to a brick and
>> >> morter church. Satan and I hate to say this but satan has the brick
>> >> and morter church is in his grasp because people are not fighting
>> >> back and getting the victory we need is souls coming to Christ.  and
>> >> if we soon don't get serious about god  he will for sure take his hand
>> >> off the church. this is the last days.  as timothy said. we are to
>> >> dependent on a church building churches are not reaching out for souls
>> >> and  satan has as I said the church as a whole in his grasp people are
>> >> to blind to see it. Christians truly are not standing up for god.
>> >>
>> >> On 9/3/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> >>> Jenny, I totally agree. I know that the internet wasn't around when
>> >>> the Bible was inspired, but I don't believe that Hebrews 10:24-25
>> >>> means that it's OK to stay home and worship with others via the
>> >>> computer. It's unfortunate that that's the only way for some of the
>> >>> blind community to go to church. It lets church members off the hook,
>> >>> or so they think.
>> >>>
>> >>> Blessings,
>> >>>
>> >>> Linda
>> >>>
>> >>> At 12:11 PM 9/2/2013, you wrote:
>> >>>> I have been close to totally blind since birth, and I don't like the
>> >>>> movement that has been mafe to screens instead of using a book for
>> >>>> music, especially since I'm a singer.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> However, i don't think that there is any replacement for fellowship
>> >>>> and actually being among fellow christians in person and feeling the
>> >>>> Holy Spirit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> some churches will be happy to email you the words to the music if
>> >>>> they can figure out how to get it from power point to a document
>> >>>> format.  You just have to ask and be persistent.  also, just sit
>> >>>> down with your pastor if needbe and explain that you don't feel a
>> >>>> part of the worship service without the words to the songs, or
>> >>>> whatever you are lacking.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If we just hide away in our houses and do church there.  We're
>> >>>> giving up and the churches won't ever know how much this affects us
>> >>>> and how to help us.  Which is what churches are supposed to be
>> >>>> about.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Maybe try different churches to see where you fit in.
>> >>>> don't be limitted to the status quo.  branch out to other things in
>> >>>> the christian arena
>> >>>>
>> >>>> You never know if you may find just where you belong.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jenny and Shasta
>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>> >>>> <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > Hi
>> >>>> > I do not believe that if God wanted us to see He would create us
>> >>>> as sighted. Otherwise Jesus would havedone no healing because
>> >>>> everyone would have been whole at birth.
>> >>>> > Maureen
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>> >>>> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:12 PM
>> >>>> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> >>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > Hi,
>> >>>> > If this isn't a joke, can you please spell correctly?
>> >>>> > On the subject of seeing, if God wanted to have you see, he would
>> >>>> create you
>> >>>> > as sighted.
>> >>>> > But he created us the way we are for a reason including the
>> >>>> > characteristic
>> >>>> > that we cannot see.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo
>> >>>> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:00 PM
>> >>>> > To: Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>> >>>> > Subject: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > --
>> >>>> > if you can see it beeleeve it then you can a cheeve it. dont
>> >>>> > forget
>> >>>> > to
>> >>>> > pray. dont beeafreade to pray. prayer changes things!Chikodinaka
>> >>>> > Happiness&Obianuju. One Love Keep Us Together. our motto song
>> >>>> > &slogan!
>> >>>> > mom told mee this at childbirth. if you try you will SekSeed. try
>> >>>> > try
>> >>>> > try agan. for if you pursivear. you will conker neverfear. try try
>> >>>> > try
>> >>>> > agan|. in the words of w h u r's f m. Jacky Gails Webb! may the
>> >>>> > grace
>> >>>> > of god save you. may the will of god guide you&may the love of god
>> >>>> > shine thru you
>> >>>> > i wont to see like my wife my adonnaWife. I have ben blind sence
>> >>>> > childbirth, can i start seeing? agan or i will bee blind4ever?
>> >>>> >
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