[Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.

[Andrew]

we as Christians should not be sitting back while  babies are being
killed each day and  things I don't care but each time a baby is
killed there goes one of god's creations runed by  a human being as
that is murder.  we  should be standing up for god on these isues
instead of sitting back  and allowing these gutless acts of murder or
whatever I am using   aborshions as an example but we  go and hide
behind  our 4 walls and do nothing but I am sorry  that can't happen
we need to get away from outside the 4 walls that we call church and
hit the streets.   the thing is are we going to stand up and  give our
say or we just going to contribute to the evil in our society. I am
tired of  people not making a stand we are in the last days fokes
Iknow deep down his return is nearer than we realize so  I would say
if we are going to be true Christians lets do what is required of us
through god's word.  Sometimes that means getting in trouble if I am
going to  get in big trouble I would rather face trouble for the right
reasons.   far as I am concerned they can put me in jail for standing
up for god and what is right in his eyes.  even if I was thrown in
jail I would still talk to people inside jail about god.  and  that is
that.

On 9/3/13, justin williams <justin.williams2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Keep in mind folks.  There are thousands of different Christian groups
> which
> means that there are as many different interpretations. All of those
> individuals read the same book and got different meanings out of it.  I
> have
> met people who interpret a verse in the bible completely different and all
> tried to convince me that they were preaching the truth.  I've learned that
> one must simply take their own interpretation and connect with God in their
> own way.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:27 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>
> the thing is though  I tell how I feel and if it is not liked that is the
> other persons problem.  allot of churches just don't preach the true word
> of
> god  I challenge you to do this name one church that actually preaches the
> word of god and a well known one.
>
> On 9/3/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>> Andrew, it's not what you feel that matters, but what God's Word says.
>> Please don't lump all churches into one or two categories.
>> There are still many good churches. Please take care not to offend
>> anyone here. You don't have all the answers; none of us does.
>> Computer churches are just as likely to err as are brick and mortar ones.
>>
>> Blessings,
>>
>> Linda
>>
>> At 08:15 PM 9/3/2013, you wrote:
>>>and just because a church is growing and things does not mean it is a
>>>good church.  because there are allot of pastors that preach  a luke
>>>warm message just to attract numbers and  give them a warm comfortable
>>>pew things like that.  so the thing is having these big churches are
>>>not always good.  after all it shouldn't be about the numbers it
>>>should be  teaching the bible and the hard truth of what the word says
>>>not man says.  and most churches are about money.  some churches have
>>>become so rich it seems that it is not even funny. I am not saying
>>>lots of money or being rich is bad but  how are we using it to get
>>>welth and prosperity the thing is this  god's idea of prosperity is
>>>being in him and his kingdom.   besides we can't take our pozessions
>>>to heaven we can't take our money to heaven just souls that come to
>>>Christ.  I feel like allot of churches are just storeing up treasure
>>>on earth in things.   I feel that today's church is just so luke warm
>>>as I said earlier until people get serious   there is no sence in
>>>calling ourselves Christian.
>>>
>>>On 9/3/13, Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com> wrote:
>>> > Ashley, they might be teaching from the bible but are they teaching
>>> > it correctly.
>>> >  for example, do they teach that the god head is 3 rapped up into
>>> the son of
>>> > god jesus christ?
>>> >  this is why when prayers are said we say father or jesus.
>>> >  they are all 3 rapped into 1 god head.
>>> >  and, when they baptize, do they baptize in the name of jesus or
>>> > father son and holy ghost.
>>> >  there's a lot that goes on that people accept that just is not
>>> > correct.
>>> >  i'm not saying your church is wrong just that there are a lot that
>>> > are.
>>> >
>>> > Timothy
>>> >  Your friend in the music industry
>>> >  follow me on twitter @timothyclark13  to check out music, photos,
>>> > videos, press, show dates, and more go to
>>> > http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
>>> >  feel free to give me a call at
>>> >  7244011224
>>> >  note, if i don't answer your call just leave me a voicemail and
>>> > i'll get back in contact with you as soon as possible  thanks and
>>> > god bless
>>> >
>>> > On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Andrew,
>>> >> Nothing could be further from the truth! Many large churches,
>>> >> mainly the evangelical churches, do reach out.
>>> >> They are growing and growing.  They are very Christ centered. For
>>> >> instance the evangelical church me and my dad tried has 6 campuses
>>> >> or more!
>>> >> They
>>> >> not only have small groups, but larger groups to study the word. I
>>> >> don't know where you get such ideas that saintain is infultrating
>>> >> the church.
>>> >> You said
>>> >> "if we soon don't get serious about god  he will for sure take his
>>> >> hand off the church. this is the last days.  "
>>> >>
>>> >> Well, I can tell you that I was raised Methodist and those
>>> >> Christian friends who were raised in the church knew about God and
>>> >> ethical values and what Christianity meant.
>>> >> Churches do reach out. Examples are websites where sermons are
>>> >> posted online, newcomer classes, discipleship classes, small
>>> >> groups, and numerous fellowship activities.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'd have to say you are truly missing a lot by sitting around at
>>> >> home in front of  a computer. You miss the fellowship. You miss
>>> >> sharing your views with others in person. You miss the fact that
>>> >> people come up and know you by name and ask how things are going.
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm not saying you have to go to the brick and mourter church to
>>> >> be a good Christian. But I feel you will have a deeper experience
>>> >> going to one.
>>> >> You raised the issue about transportation. Maybe if you voice your
>>> >> needs to someone in a nearby church they will help you.
>>> >> I feel you gave up on church before trying to make a bigger effort
>>> >> to get there.
>>> >>
>>> >> I know how it is not feeling fully included.  experienced this a
>>> >> lot in youth group and even sunday school before they got the
>>> >> readings in braille.
>>> >>
>>> >> But still we should reach out and try.
>>> >>
>>> >> I think educating any community including the church is a long
>>> >> road and the road is easier if more of us participate.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ashley
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew
>>> >> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:18 PM
>>> >> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>> >>
>>> >> but I feel we shouldn't tell people that they have to go to a
>>> >> brick and morte church  at all. that is not our job I feel.
>>> >> online churches are as affective as the  off line churches. like
>>> >> the community I am part of has people in it that have been hurt by
>>> >> the brick and morter church.  so she is not going back she would
>>> >> rather take part in online churches.  there is nothing wrong with
>>> >> online churches. I feel we as Christians should not be telling
>>> >> people they have to go to a brick and morter church. Satan and I
>>> >> hate to say this but satan has the brick and morter church is in
>>> >> his grasp because people are not fighting back and getting the
>>> >> victory we need is souls coming to Christ.  and if we soon don't
>>> >> get serious about god  he will for sure take his hand off the
>>> >> church. this is the last days.  as timothy said. we are to
>>> >> dependent on a church building churches are not reaching out for
>>> >> souls and  satan has as I said the church as a whole in his grasp
> people are to blind to see it. Christians truly are not standing up for
> god.
>>> >>
>>> >> On 9/3/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>> >>> Jenny, I totally agree. I know that the internet wasn't around
>>> >>> when the Bible was inspired, but I don't believe that Hebrews
>>> >>> 10:24-25 means that it's OK to stay home and worship with others
>>> >>> via the computer. It's unfortunate that that's the only way for
>>> >>> some of the blind community to go to church. It lets church
>>> >>> members off the hook, or so they think.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Blessings,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Linda
>>> >>>
>>> >>> At 12:11 PM 9/2/2013, you wrote:
>>> >>>> I have been close to totally blind since birth, and I don't like
>>> >>>> the movement that has been mafe to screens instead of using a
>>> >>>> book for music, especially since I'm a singer.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> However, i don't think that there is any replacement for
>>> >>>> fellowship and actually being among fellow christians in person
>>> >>>> and feeling the Holy Spirit.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> some churches will be happy to email you the words to the music
>>> >>>> if they can figure out how to get it from power point to a
>>> >>>> document format.  You just have to ask and be persistent.  also,
>>> >>>> just sit down with your pastor if needbe and explain that you
>>> >>>> don't feel a part of the worship service without the words to
>>> >>>> the songs, or whatever you are lacking.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> If we just hide away in our houses and do church there.  We're
>>> >>>> giving up and the churches won't ever know how much this affects
>>> >>>> us and how to help us.  Which is what churches are supposed to
>>> >>>> be about.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Maybe try different churches to see where you fit in.
>>> >>>> don't be limitted to the status quo.  branch out to other things
>>> >>>> in the christian arena
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> You never know if you may find just where you belong.
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Jenny and Shasta
>>> >>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>>> >>>> <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> > Hi
>>> >>>> > I do not believe that if God wanted us to see He would create
>>> >>>> > us
>>> >>>> as sighted. Otherwise Jesus would havedone no healing because
>>> >>>> everyone would have been whole at birth.
>>> >>>> > Maureen
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>>> >>>> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:12 PM
>>> >>>> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> >>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > Hi,
>>> >>>> > If this isn't a joke, can you please spell correctly?
>>> >>>> > On the subject of seeing, if God wanted to have you see, he
>>> >>>> > would
>>> >>>> create you
>>> >>>> > as sighted.
>>> >>>> > But he created us the way we are for a reason including the
>>> >>>> > characteristic that we cannot see.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > -----Original Message----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo
>>> >>>> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:00 PM
>>> >>>> > To: Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>> >>>> > Subject: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>> >>>> >
>>> >>>> > --
>>> >>>> > if you can see it beeleeve it then you can a cheeve it. dont
>>> >>>> > forget to pray. dont beeafreade to pray. prayer changes
>>> >>>> > things!Chikodinaka Happiness&Obianuju. One Love Keep Us
>>> >>>> > Together. our motto song &slogan!
>>> >>>> > mom told mee this at childbirth. if you try you will SekSeed.
>>> >>>> > try try try agan. for if you pursivear. you will conker
>>> >>>> > neverfear. try try try
>>> >>>> > agan|. in the words of w h u r's f m. Jacky Gails Webb! may
>>> >>>> > agan|the
>>> >>>> > grace
>>> >>>> > of god save you. may the will of god guide you&may the love of
>>> >>>> > god shine thru you i wont to see like my wife my adonnaWife. I
>>> >>>> > have ben blind sence childbirth, can i start seeing? agan or i
>>> >>>> > will bee blind4ever?
>>> >>>> >
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