[Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
Timothy Clark Music
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Wed Sep 4 03:09:55 UTC 2013
as best as possible yes.
i still have to stay subjective to the law but other then that, yes.
Timothy
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On Sep 3, 2013, at 11:07 PM, justin williams wrote:
> If you feel that litteral is the way for you, then follow that path. Do you
> follow both the old and new testament literally?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Timothy
> Clark Music
> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:47 PM
> To: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>
> justin, interpreting it is one of the biggest problems have.
> let me show you a few virces. acts chapter 2 verse 38 Then Peter said unto
> them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ
> for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
> what does being baptized in the name of jesus signify?
> see john chapter 3 verse3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily,
> I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of
> God.
> keep reading and it says in verse 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say
> unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter
> into the kingdom of God.
> that's vary clear. that's talking about being baptized.
> the bible should not be interpreted.
> only literally.
> Timothy
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> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Timothy Clark Music wrote:
>
>> i'm sorry but andrew is hitting on vary valid points.
>> we should be standing up for the truth and not convenience.
>> the churches in the bible are lumped into two. luke warm, or fiery hot for
> jesus. those who are luke warm jesus will say i know you not.
>> churches as well as individuals need to be on fire for jesus.
>> we can't ideally sit by while gay's and murders and kids running away and
> rapes.
>> none of this stuff needs to be and it's this way because to many people
> has lost focus on god.
>> it's important to remember that we were made created in the image of god
> and that we are met to be different.
>> remember we are to be in the world but not of the world.
>> that's why we're born again.
>> we are born again by the renewing of our mind and spirit through the
> baptizing of the remission of our sins in the name of jesus.
>> while i am respectful of others and remembering this list is for
> conversation, i believe we can get our points across without offending
> anyone.
>> and if we do step on a few toes while glorifying the lord jesus christ,
> then i guess that's a price we'll have to pay.
>> if you have a problem with the things i'm saying i will have no problems
> leaving the list.
>> my only regret though would be that people aren't able to hear the truth.
> i'm not saying that anyone is wrong but i do think some are misguided.
>> again though, for me not to say. i'm just observing that's all.
>> take care.
>> Timothy
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>> follow me on twitter @timothyclark13
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>> 7244011224
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>> get back in contact with you as soon as possible thanks and god bless
>>
>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Linda Mentink wrote:
>>
>>> Andrew, it's not what you feel that matters, but what God's Word says.
> Please don't lump all churches into one or two categories. There are still
> many good churches. Please take care not to offend anyone here. You don't
> have all the answers; none of us does. Computer churches are just as likely
> to err as are brick and mortar ones.
>>>
>>> Blessings,
>>>
>>> Linda
>>>
>>> At 08:15 PM 9/3/2013, you wrote:
>>>> and just because a church is growing and things does not mean it is
>>>> a good church. because there are allot of pastors that preach a
>>>> luke warm message just to attract numbers and give them a warm
>>>> comfortable pew things like that. so the thing is having these big
>>>> churches are not always good. after all it shouldn't be about the
>>>> numbers it should be teaching the bible and the hard truth of what
>>>> the word says not man says. and most churches are about money.
>>>> some churches have become so rich it seems that it is not even
>>>> funny. I am not saying lots of money or being rich is bad but how
>>>> are we using it to get welth and prosperity the thing is this god's
> idea of prosperity is
>>>> being in him and his kingdom. besides we can't take our pozessions
>>>> to heaven we can't take our money to heaven just souls that come to
>>>> Christ. I feel like allot of churches are just storeing up treasure
>>>> on earth in things. I feel that today's church is just so luke warm
>>>> as I said earlier until people get serious there is no sence in
>>>> calling ourselves Christian.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/3/13, Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com> wrote:
>>>>> Ashley, they might be teaching from the bible but are they teaching
>>>>> it correctly.
>>>>> for example, do they teach that the god head is 3 rapped up into
>>>>> the son of god jesus christ?
>>>>> this is why when prayers are said we say father or jesus.
>>>>> they are all 3 rapped into 1 god head.
>>>>> and, when they baptize, do they baptize in the name of jesus or
>>>>> father son and holy ghost.
>>>>> there's a lot that goes on that people accept that just is not correct.
>>>>> i'm not saying your church is wrong just that there are a lot that are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Timothy
>>>>> Your friend in the music industry
>>>>> follow me on twitter @timothyclark13 to check out music, photos,
>>>>> videos, press, show dates, and more go to
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>>>>> 7244011224
>>>>> note, if i don't answer your call just leave me a voicemail and
>>>>> i'll get back in contact with you as soon as possible thanks and
>>>>> god bless
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>>> Nothing could be further from the truth! Many large churches,
>>>>>> mainly the evangelical churches, do reach out.
>>>>>> They are growing and growing. They are very Christ centered. For
>>>>>> instance the evangelical church me and my dad tried has 6 campuses
>>>>>> or more! They not only have small groups, but larger groups to
>>>>>> study the word. I don't know where you get such ideas that saintain is
> infultrating the church.
>>>>>> You said
>>>>>> "if we soon don't get serious about god he will for sure take his
>>>>>> hand off the church. this is the last days. "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, I can tell you that I was raised Methodist and those
>>>>>> Christian friends who were raised in the church knew about God and
>>>>>> ethical values and what Christianity meant.
>>>>>> Churches do reach out. Examples are websites where sermons are
>>>>>> posted online, newcomer classes, discipleship classes, small
>>>>>> groups, and numerous fellowship activities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd have to say you are truly missing a lot by sitting around at
>>>>>> home in front of a computer. You miss the fellowship. You miss
>>>>>> sharing your views with others in person. You miss the fact that
>>>>>> people come up and know you by name and ask how things are going.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not saying you have to go to the brick and mourter church to
>>>>>> be a good Christian. But I feel you will have a deeper experience
>>>>>> going to one.
>>>>>> You raised the issue about transportation. Maybe if you voice your
>>>>>> needs to someone in a nearby church they will help you.
>>>>>> I feel you gave up on church before trying to make a bigger effort
>>>>>> to get there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I know how it is not feeling fully included. experienced this a
>>>>>> lot in youth group and even sunday school before they got the
>>>>>> readings in braille.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But still we should reach out and try.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think educating any community including the church is a long
>>>>>> road and the road is easier if more of us participate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:18 PM
>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> but I feel we shouldn't tell people that they have to go to a
>>>>>> brick and morte church at all. that is not our job I feel.
>>>>>> online churches are as affective as the off line churches. like
>>>>>> the community I am part of has people in it that have been hurt by
>>>>>> the brick and morter church. so she is not going back she would
>>>>>> rather take part in online churches. there is nothing wrong with
>>>>>> online churches. I feel we as Christians should not be telling
>>>>>> people they have to go to a brick and morter church. Satan and I
>>>>>> hate to say this but satan has the brick and morter church is in
>>>>>> his grasp because people are not fighting back and getting the
>>>>>> victory we need is souls coming to Christ. and if we soon don't
>>>>>> get serious about god he will for sure take his hand off the
>>>>>> church. this is the last days. as timothy said. we are to
>>>>>> dependent on a church building churches are not reaching out for
>>>>>> souls and satan has as I said the church as a whole in his grasp
> people are to blind to see it. Christians truly are not standing up for god.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 9/3/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jenny, I totally agree. I know that the internet wasn't around
>>>>>>> when the Bible was inspired, but I don't believe that Hebrews
>>>>>>> 10:24-25 means that it's OK to stay home and worship with others
>>>>>>> via the computer. It's unfortunate that that's the only way for
>>>>>>> some of the blind community to go to church. It lets church
>>>>>>> members off the hook, or so they think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At 12:11 PM 9/2/2013, you wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have been close to totally blind since birth, and I don't like
>>>>>>>> the movement that has been mafe to screens instead of using a
>>>>>>>> book for music, especially since I'm a singer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, i don't think that there is any replacement for
>>>>>>>> fellowship and actually being among fellow christians in person
>>>>>>>> and feeling the Holy Spirit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> some churches will be happy to email you the words to the music
>>>>>>>> if they can figure out how to get it from power point to a
>>>>>>>> document format. You just have to ask and be persistent. also,
>>>>>>>> just sit down with your pastor if needbe and explain that you
>>>>>>>> don't feel a part of the worship service without the words to
>>>>>>>> the songs, or whatever you are lacking.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we just hide away in our houses and do church there. We're
>>>>>>>> giving up and the churches won't ever know how much this affects
>>>>>>>> us and how to help us. Which is what churches are supposed to be
> about.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe try different churches to see where you fit in.
>>>>>>>> don't be limitted to the status quo. branch out to other things
>>>>>>>> in the christian arena
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You never know if you may find just where you belong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jenny and Shasta
>>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>>>>>>>> <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>> I do not believe that if God wanted us to see He would create
>>>>>>>>> us
>>>>>>>> as sighted. Otherwise Jesus would havedone no healing because
>>>>>>>> everyone would have been whole at birth.
>>>>>>>>> Maureen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:12 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>> If this isn't a joke, can you please spell correctly?
>>>>>>>>> On the subject of seeing, if God wanted to have you see, he
>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> create you
>>>>>>>>> as sighted.
>>>>>>>>> But he created us the way we are for a reason including the
>>>>>>>>> characteristic that we cannot see.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:00 PM
>>>>>>>>> To: Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> if you can see it beeleeve it then you can a cheeve it. dont
>>>>>>>>> forget to pray. dont beeafreade to pray. prayer changes
>>>>>>>>> things!Chikodinaka Happiness&Obianuju. One Love Keep Us
>>>>>>>>> Together. our motto song &slogan!
>>>>>>>>> mom told mee this at childbirth. if you try you will SekSeed.
>>>>>>>>> try try try agan. for if you pursivear. you will conker
>>>>>>>>> neverfear. try try try
>>>>>>>>> agan|. in the words of w h u r's f m. Jacky Gails Webb! may the
>>>>>>>>> agan|grace
>>>>>>>>> of god save you. may the will of god guide you&may the love of
>>>>>>>>> god shine thru you i wont to see like my wife my adonnaWife. I
>>>>>>>>> have ben blind sence childbirth, can i start seeing? agan or i
>>>>>>>>> will bee blind4ever?
>>>>>>>>>
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