[Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.

Wed Sep 4 23:52:19 UTC 2013

I actually do attend a church but a different one to get away from the
noncence in the old one  so don't assume I don't attend church just
saying that I do attend a church

On 9/4/13, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
> Hey,
> Thanks. Take care and enjoy your walk with Christ.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Poppa Bear
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 4:38 PM
> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>
> I think your pretty firy Miss Ashly, Grin.  God bless sister.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ashley Bramlett" <bookwormahb at earthlink.net>
> To: "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion"
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>
>
>> Andrew,
>> I grew up Methodist and those preachers are not firy.
>> Who says you  got to be firey to preach the truth and word of Christ?
>> You don't have to as far as I know. They were quieter type sermons.
>>
>> I was taught the parables in Sunday school; I was taught about Jesus life,
>>
>> trial and ressurection. I was also taught about other key leaders of the
>> Bible such as Moses and what he did for God.
>> This was in Sunday school as a kid. I did not go to church service much,
>> but sunday school and other church activities were a part of my life; I
>> was even in the children's choir.
>>
>> If you fall asleep that is your problem. Just because sermons fail to
>> interest you does not! make them wrong.
>> I think you have a problem with the style of preaching in real churches
>> and lumped your experience altogether.
>> Some denominations are more firey than others. If that works for you, then
>>
>> go that way.
>>
>> But there's a difference between a style and what is the truth of the
>> gospel.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Andrew
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 1:17 PM
>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>
>> well that is true though Ashley I don't see much of the bible being
>> preached your experience has not been mine and  I feel like I have
>> not seen much happen in churches generally speaking.  but what I said
>> and timothy says is totally correct  the bible is not explained
>> properly and if the bible was preached properly I would get allot more
>> out of it and  I would get a better understanding of it.  but  I tend
>> to fall asleep through a pastors preaching a pastors preaching should
>> keep me awake and  what I look for is  this  fire and brimstone
>> preaching is likely to keep me awake but pastors who  are quiet tend
>> to put me asleep. and I get nothing out of allot of sermons usually.
>>
>> On 9/4/13, Ashley Bramlett <bookwormahb at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>> Andrew,
>>> But your contention that churches 1. do not reach out for souls and 2.
>>> do
>>> not preach the Christ centered gospel and 3. fail to spread the gospel
>>> to
>>> non believers is wrong.
>>>
>>> Have you  been to a church recently? You can certainly worship online if
>>>
>>> you
>>>
>>> want through the computer, but I do not believe transportation should be
>>>
>>> the
>>>
>>> only excuse or barrier.
>>> Frankly, your assertations backed up by no substance rubs me the wrong
>>> way.
>>>
>>> Ashley
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Andrew
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 9:15 PM
>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>
>>> and just because a church is growing and things does not mean it is a
>>> good church.  because there are allot of pastors that preach  a luke
>>> warm message just to attract numbers and  give them a warm comfortable
>>> pew things like that.  so the thing is having these big churches are
>>> not always good.  after all it shouldn't be about the numbers it
>>> should be  teaching the bible and the hard truth of what the word says
>>> not man says.  and most churches are about money.  some churches have
>>> become so rich it seems that it is not even funny. I am not saying
>>> lots of money or being rich is bad but  how are we using it to get
>>> welth and prosperity the thing is this  god's idea of prosperity is
>>> being in him and his kingdom.   besides we can't take our pozessions
>>> to heaven we can't take our money to heaven just souls that come to
>>> Christ.  I feel like allot of churches are just storeing up treasure
>>> on earth in things.   I feel that today's church is just so luke warm
>>> as I said earlier until people get serious   there is no sence in
>>> calling ourselves Christian.
>>>
>>> On 9/3/13, Timothy Clark Music <timothyclarkmusic at me.com> wrote:
>>>> Ashley, they might be teaching from the bible but are they teaching it
>>>> correctly.
>>>>  for example, do they teach that the god head is 3 rapped up into the
>>>> son
>>>>
>>>> of
>>>> god jesus christ?
>>>>  this is why when prayers are said we say father or jesus.
>>>>  they are all 3 rapped into 1 god head.
>>>>  and, when they baptize, do they baptize in the name of jesus or father
>>>> son
>>>> and holy ghost.
>>>>  there's a lot that goes on that people accept that just is not
>>>> correct.
>>>>  i'm not saying your church is wrong just that there are a lot that
>>>> are.
>>>>
>>>> Timothy
>>>>  Your friend in the music industry
>>>>  follow me on twitter @timothyclark13
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>>>> http://www.reverbnation.com/timothyclark13
>>>>  feel free to give me a call at
>>>>  7244011224
>>>>  note, if i don't answer your call just leave me a voicemail and i'll
>>>> get
>>>> back in contact with you as soon as possible
>>>>  thanks and god bless
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 3, 2013, at 8:45 PM, Ashley Bramlett wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Andrew,
>>>>> Nothing could be further from the truth! Many large churches, mainly
>>>>> the
>>>>> evangelical churches, do reach out.
>>>>> They are growing and growing.  They are very Christ centered. For
>>>>> instance
>>>>> the evangelical church me and my dad tried has 6 campuses or more!
>>>>> They
>>>>> not only have small groups, but larger groups to study the word. I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> know where you get such ideas that saintain is infultrating the
>>>>> church.
>>>>> You said
>>>>> "if we soon don't get serious about god  he will for sure take his
>>>>> hand
>>>>> off the church. this is the last days.  "
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, I can tell you that I was raised Methodist and those Christian
>>>>> friends who were raised in the church
>>>>> knew about God and ethical values and what Christianity meant.
>>>>> Churches do reach out. Examples are websites where sermons are posted
>>>>> online, newcomer classes, discipleship classes, small groups, and
>>>>> numerous
>>>>> fellowship activities.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd have to say you are truly missing a lot by sitting around at home
>>>>> in
>>>>> front of  a computer. You miss the fellowship. You miss sharing your
>>>>> views
>>>>> with others in person. You miss the fact that people come up and know
>>>>> you
>>>>> by name and ask how things are going.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not saying you have to go to the brick and
>>>>> mourter church to be a good Christian. But I feel you will have a
>>>>> deeper
>>>>> experience going to one.
>>>>> You raised the issue about transportation. Maybe if you voice your
>>>>> needs
>>>>> to someone in a nearby church they will help you.
>>>>> I feel you gave up on church before trying to make a bigger effort to
>>>>> get
>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I know how it is not feeling fully included.  experienced this a lot
>>>>> in
>>>>> youth group and even sunday school before they got the readings in
>>>>> braille.
>>>>>
>>>>> But still we should reach out and try.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think educating any community including the church is a long road
>>>>> and
>>>>> the road is easier
>>>>> if more of us participate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ashley
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Andrew
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 03, 2013 7:18 PM
>>>>> To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>
>>>>> but I feel we shouldn't tell people that they have to go to a brick
>>>>> and morte church  at all. that is not our job I feel.  online churches
>>>>> are as affective as the  off line churches. like the community I am
>>>>> part of has people in it that have been hurt by the brick and morter
>>>>> church.  so she is not going back she would rather take part in online
>>>>> churches.  there is nothing wrong with online churches. I feel we as
>>>>> Christians should not be telling people they have to go to a brick and
>>>>> morter church. Satan and I hate to say this but satan has the brick
>>>>> and morter church is in his grasp because people are not fighting
>>>>> back and getting the victory we need is souls coming to Christ.  and
>>>>> if we soon don't get serious about god  he will for sure take his hand
>>>>> off the church. this is the last days.  as timothy said. we are to
>>>>> dependent on a church building churches are not reaching out for souls
>>>>> and  satan has as I said the church as a whole in his grasp people are
>>>>> to blind to see it. Christians truly are not standing up for god.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/3/13, Linda Mentink <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Jenny, I totally agree. I know that the internet wasn't around when
>>>>>> the Bible was inspired, but I don't believe that Hebrews 10:24-25
>>>>>> means that it's OK to stay home and worship with others via the
>>>>>> computer. It's unfortunate that that's the only way for some of the
>>>>>> blind community to go to church. It lets church members off the hook,
>>>>>> or so they think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Blessings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linda
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At 12:11 PM 9/2/2013, you wrote:
>>>>>>> I have been close to totally blind since birth, and I don't like the
>>>>>>> movement that has been mafe to screens instead of using a book for
>>>>>>> music, especially since I'm a singer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, i don't think that there is any replacement for fellowship
>>>>>>> and actually being among fellow christians in person and feeling the
>>>>>>> Holy Spirit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> some churches will be happy to email you the words to the music if
>>>>>>> they can figure out how to get it from power point to a document
>>>>>>> format.  You just have to ask and be persistent.  also, just sit
>>>>>>> down with your pastor if needbe and explain that you don't feel a
>>>>>>> part of the worship service without the words to the songs, or
>>>>>>> whatever you are lacking.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we just hide away in our houses and do church there.  We're
>>>>>>> giving up and the churches won't ever know how much this affects us
>>>>>>> and how to help us.  Which is what churches are supposed to be
>>>>>>> about.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe try different churches to see where you fit in.
>>>>>>> don't be limitted to the status quo.  branch out to other things in
>>>>>>> the christian arena
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You never know if you may find just where you belong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jenny and Shasta
>>>>>>> On Sep 2, 2013, at 11:35 AM, "Maureen Pranghofer"
>>>>>>> <maureensmusic at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > Hi
>>>>>>> > I do not believe that if God wanted us to see He would create us
>>>>>>> as sighted. Otherwise Jesus would havedone no healing because
>>>>>>> everyone would have been whole at birth.
>>>>>>> > Maureen
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > -----Original Message----- From: Ashley Bramlett
>>>>>>> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2013 5:12 PM
>>>>>>> > To: Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion
>>>>>>> > Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Hi,
>>>>>>> > If this isn't a joke, can you please spell correctly?
>>>>>>> > On the subject of seeing, if God wanted to have you see, he would
>>>>>>> create you
>>>>>>> > as sighted.
>>>>>>> > But he created us the way we are for a reason including the
>>>>>>> > characteristic
>>>>>>> > that we cannot see.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > -----Original Message----- From: mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo
>>>>>>> > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 4:00 PM
>>>>>>> > To: Faith-talk at nfbnet.org
>>>>>>> > Subject: [Faith-talk] blind sence child birth.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > --
>>>>>>> > if you can see it beeleeve it then you can a cheeve it. dont
>>>>>>> > forget
>>>>>>> > to
>>>>>>> > pray. dont beeafreade to pray. prayer changes things!Chikodinaka
>>>>>>> > Happiness&Obianuju. One Love Keep Us Together. our motto song
>>>>>>> > &slogan!
>>>>>>> > mom told mee this at childbirth. if you try you will SekSeed. try
>>>>>>> > try
>>>>>>> > try agan. for if you pursivear. you will conker neverfear. try try
>>>>>>> > try
>>>>>>> > agan|. in the words of w h u r's f m. Jacky Gails Webb! may the
>>>>>>> > grace
>>>>>>> > of god save you. may the will of god guide you&may the love of god
>>>>>>> > shine thru you
>>>>>>> > i wont to see like my wife my adonnaWife. I have ben blind sence
>>>>>>> > childbirth, can i start seeing? agan or i will bee blind4ever?
>>>>>>> >
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