[Faith-talk] blindness and faith issues question

[Timothy Clark Ministries]

hello there - 
 is it judging when you inherently decide to no longer live by the book you claim to believe in? 
 wow.
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On Kislev 26, 5775 AM, at 14:09, Christine Olivares <rafael4490 at gmail.com> wrote:

> This list is for everyone of all faiths, and we all should give our own perspectives without judgement. We are all giving our two sense, not trying to see what is right or wrong. I don’t think beth wants a lecture about what is in the Bible. She just wants to know if this is a blind issue or not. What she does is her choice. And to say you should or shouldn’t call yourself Christian is not for anyone to judge. Only God can judge, not us.
>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 2:00 PM, Timothy Clark Ministries via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Brandon - 
>> i’m guessing this list is for everyone from all different backgrounds of faith. this being said, while i know where you are coming from, the bible that a lot of us subscribes to gives us rules and regulations on subjects such as sex. we must follow the teachings found there within it’s pages as for christians, that’s truly the only way. 
>> just because you call yourself a christian doesn’t mean you actually are. we have to be living examples of christ on earth.
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>> On Kislev 26, 5775 AM, at 13:31, Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>>> What is guilt? It is the response of our mind to a violation of societal, cultural or religious norms and expectations. It does not mean you have done something wrong necessarily. The question of what, if anything, is “wrong” is another topic entirely, but suffice it to say that just because some institution declares an action wrong, does not inherently make it wrong. It’s “wrong” for a Catholic to eat meat on a Friday, because the Church says so. So if a Catholic eats meat on a Friday, they feel guilt, not because it is an inherently wrong action, but because the religious norms they have subscribed to say that it is wrong. for an atheist, or a Pagan, or a Jew, or a Muslim, they’re not going to feel any guilt.
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>>> So what this comes down to is that a pastor subscribes to the norm that a boyfriend staying in one’s apartment is wrong. Now Beth has to decide whether she wants to subscribe to those norms or not. But it is just that: a norm created by a another human being, and whether she chooses to subscribe or not is completely up to her. It’s as simple as that.
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>>>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 1:02 PM, Debby Phillips <semisweetdebby at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> Sorry Christine, often I agree with you.  This time well, nope.  First of all, (and I'm setting up a premise here).  If you are a Christian, then by virtue of being a Christian you have chosen to accept certain principles.  One of those is that we should live godly lives.  What that looks like may be a little different for each person, but it will probably be lived out in one of two ways: the Bible and it alone is your guide.  Then if that's the case, you try, to the best of your ability to follow what Scripture says.  For me as a Catholic, I follow Scripture, but within the framework of the teachings and Tradition of the Church.  It's like a three-legged stool: we have Scripture, Tradition (which is the accumulative writings, prayers, etc.  and the Magisterium, the Teaching Church.  What is the Church officially saying about this or that subject.  All three go together.  (And even in churches that say they only follow Scripture, many churches have manuals that give guidelines about various things.  (For instance, the Free Methodist Church has the Book of Discipline.  Does every decision I make have to be looked at minutely every day? No, of course not.  That would be crazy.  But certainly our lives and how we live them are formed by something.  Nobody operates out of a vacuum.
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>>>> Unresolved guilt is not healthy.  But when I feel guilty about something (either before I've done it but I'm thinking about doing it) or after I've done it) the healthy thing is to resolve the guilt.  If I'm feeling guilty about whether to do or not do something, then I need to look at it and determine whether I should do or not do whatever it is that's making me feel guilty.  If I decide that I'm not going to do it, fine and good, if I decide to do it then I must be aware that there will be consequences.  There are always consequences to our actions.  If I feel guilty after I have done something then I need to decide why.  Is it something I should feel guilty about? Then I need to repent, resolve not to do it again, and if possible, make restitution.  If I'm just being overly sensitive and there's nothing to feel guilty about, then I need to move on.  And if I'm not sure, well, I need to pray, and seek out counsel.  Or as a Catholic, maybe I need to go to Reconciliation.
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>>>> Sorry I have rambled so much.    Blessings,    Debby and Neena
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