[Faith-talk] Legalists?

[Poppa Bear]

Brandon I think that you're not a Christian because you don't want to be.
You go from this Zen, no problem, no right or wrong to a hostile sounding,
shoving Christianity down my throat thing then perhaps you need to examine
your beliefs, ability to forgive, be loving to those who may even condemn
you to a hell you don't believe in through a bible that you don't believe in
by Christians who should be pitied if they are so wrong. Let me add, it is
never right to shove a belief down a person's throat especially a religion,
and yet we have to decide what this shoving consist of. I remembering
hearing a story about a guy that was on a gulf trip with Billy Gram. After
the game was over he and a friend were walking to their car and the guy just
got angry and threw his gulf club into the woods. His friend asked what was
up and the guy said, "It's that Gram guy, he thinks that he's so Holy." The
fact was that Billy Gram never spoke about Jesus, the Bible or any moral
wrongs. The guy had something in his heart that couldn't stand what Billy
Gram represented, was Gram shoving something down his throat? No, he wasn't,
but like I said, the problem often lies within us more than the judgmental
Christians roaming the world. 
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From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon
A. Olivares via Faith-talk
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 8:57 AM
To: Timothy Clark Ministries
Cc: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Legalists?

Oh really? And how many more people are you saving by shoving your religion
down their throats? In my experience, it pushes them away even more. Why do
you think I'm not Christian? Too many Christians telling me I'm going to
hell because I have slightly different beliefs. You might think that is
true, but telling someone that doesn't inspire them to convert to your
religion. They're just going to think you're a mean person.

> On Dec 19, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Timothy Clark Ministries
<timothyclarkministries at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> brandon, if we took this oh let them be approach, there would be many
dammed to hell and their blood would be on our hands because we did nothing
to stop them. we did nothing to try to ring them into the flock.
> Timothy Clark Ministries 
> 
> 
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>  http://www.timothyclarkministries.blogspot.com
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> On Kislev 27, 5775 AM, at 10:34, Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
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>> Sometimes, if you think someone is making a mistake, you need to let them
make that mistake. They will learn it a lot faster than if you preach at
them. Unfortunately the latter is the approach many Christians seem to take,
and so it's no wonder why those outside of Christianity have such a negative
perception of it. Sure if you like, express your opinion, once. Then let
them do what they will do. Perhaps you are right, or perhaps they are right.
Just let them be.
>> 
>>> On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Debby Phillips via Faith-talk
<faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The problem is that sometimes people think that when people disagree
with a decision or whatever that they're not being loving.  Loving someone
does not necessarily mean that I will agree with everything that person
thinks, says, decides to do.  If that were true, parents would just let
their kids do whatever they wanted to.  (Oh, I forgot, lots do that
nowadays).  Lol.  But seriously if I love you and you're approaching a hot
stove with your hand outstretched, should I just let you burn your hand
without saying something to stop you?    Blessings,    Debby and Neena
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