[Faith-talk] blindness and faith issues question
Maureen Pranghofer
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Sat Dec 20 16:45:14 UTC 2014
Hi
In my experience guilt isn't from God and so when I feel guilty I have to
look at what was I thinking what was I doing? It probably isn't of God
because He isn't about guilt.
Maureen
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From: Poppa Bear via Faith-talk
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:57 AM
To: 'Brandon A. Olivares' ; 'Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and
religion'
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blindness and faith issues question
Sometimes guilt is like the flashing light on the dashboard of a car warning
you that something is going wrong. We live in a world where people take a
hammer and smash the instruments that warn us and guide us and then wonder
why they crashed and burned. Guilt has its place, just like all emotions.
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From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandon
A. Olivares via Faith-talk
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:52 AM
To: Christine Allison Olivares; Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and
religion
Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] blindness and faith issues question
I agree with Christine. Only you know what your limits are, if waiting until
marriage is something that’s important to you. IMO it’s none of your church’s
business. So many churches now seem to focus on pharisaical rules. The
important thing you should be asking is, how is your relationship with the
Divine / God? Do you live a good life? Do you help others? Beyond that, the
rules are just man-made constructs. Religion shouldn’t be something that
inspires guilt, it should be something that inspires you to greatness.
Peace,
Brandon
> On Dec 18, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Christine Olivares via Faith-talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>
> Beth,
> As I have said, you should do what you feel is right. My husband and I did
> live together before marriage with his mom, and yes, even slept in the
> same bed. Oh dear! Well, we didn’t have any problems staying pure, so I
> disagree that because you are in the same proximity you will just start
> popping out babies. If you do have enough discipline you should be fine.
> If you do feel you are going to be tempted, then have him stay in someone
> else’s house.
>
> I honestly think people are just assuming it will be tough for you to make
> your own decisions, and that you will be “tempted.” It depends on how you
> value being a Christian, and I don’t say this as blaming you but for your
> own self-examination. Are you a strict Christian or will you do what is
> easier for you? Blake is staying for a week, it’s not like he is living
> with you.
>
> I am more of an open-minded Christian in that sometimes you have to think
> outside the box and not judge anyone at all. You need to do what helps you
> and what is best for you. If you know you will be tempted, do something
> about it. If not, then proceed as planned.
>
> You have many people who are giving you all different opinions, and no
> opinion is gospel. So just take what everyone is saying and do what you
> feel is right.
>
> Have a great day.
> Christine
>> On Dec 18, 2014, at 2:28 AM, Debby Phillips via Faith-talk
>> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>
>> Beth, I hate to sound like a stick in the mud, but I think your pastor is
>> right. I know all the practical stuff, I understand. There's a part of
>> me that wants to say, hey, Blake should be able to stay with you. But a
>> bigger part of me says, no. How long is he going to be in Denver? Would
>> it work for him to spend the night at a church member's home? You see, I
>> know how these things work. Nobody ever "intends" to have sex. But it's
>> very difficult when two people are together in close proximity for it not
>> to happen. And Scripture and other spiritual writers talk about "the
>> occasion of sin". In other words, you need to not put yourself into
>> situations where temptation can lead to sin. Your pastor is being just
>> that, your pastor. He is a wise man. Why not ask him if he has any
>> suggestions as to what you could do so that you could enjoy Blake's visit
>> without putting yourself in to a position where you might give into
>> temptation?
>>
>> I have been in those situations Beth, and I have to say that I almost
>> blew it. Plus it's not a great witness for two Christians, male and
>> female to be living in the same house. People will speculate and think
>> that you had sex whether you did or not. This is really not a blindness
>> issue other than you need to make different arrangements. And be
>> thankful that you have a pastor who is looking out for your best
>> interests. Blessings, Debby and Neena
>>
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