[Faith-talk] a distressing book

Tue Dec 30 06:41:54 UTC 2014

This. Couldn’t have said it better.

> On Dec 30, 2014, at 1:38 AM, justin williams via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Timothy, that would be your truth, and for you, that works.  It may not work
> for everyone. Or, the person may interpret the bible differently than you.
> There are several thousand sexts of Christianity alone, and most of them
> think the rest are doing it incorrectly.  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Faith-talk [mailto:faith-talk-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Timothy
> Clark Ministries via Faith-talk
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 1:35 AM
> To: Brandon A. Olivares
> Cc: Faith-talk, for the discussion of faith and religion
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] a distressing book
> 
> Brandon, i agree with you but what would you have truth take the form of?
> would you agree with gnostics who believe truth is whatever we make it, in
> other words you find your own "personal truth." 
> these claims are ridiculously absurd and further more totally out of
> proportion to the truth. the truth isn't what you make it. the truth is the
> thing that's staring you all in the face. read the bible. god's word. .
> Timothy Clark Ministries 
> 
> 
> 
>  http://www.timothyclarkministries.blogspot.com
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> On Tevet 8, 5775 AM, at 1:32, Brandon A. Olivares <programmer2188 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Devin,
>> 
>> I think it's important to question. If there is a God, then he doesn't
> want children who blindly believe without finding out the truth for
> themselves. Search, and be open to whatever form the truth takes.
>> 
>> But just know that every author you read is biased in some way. You can't
> just read a few books and think that is the end-all be-all. You have to
> figure it out for yourself. I started the journey when I was 10 years old,
> and I don't think it really ever ends.
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
>>> On Dec 30, 2014, at 1:15 AM, Devin Prater via Faith-talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 30, 2014, at 12:08 AM, Timothy Clark Ministries
> <timothyclarkministries at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> dismiss it. 
>>>> i say this for one reason. 
>>>> you'll confuse yourself. you'll give yourself more questions and you'll
> go mad searching for answers. eventually though, if you are persistent
> enough, you'll get there. question is, at what cost to your mental
> faculties. 
>>>> i've been there, done that. because i've done it i can argue against
> just about everything but, for most this is not a good path to try to
> follow. it takes discipline and patients and a lot of both. if you continue,
> be ready for lodes and lodes of sleepless nights. 
>>>> i say give it up if you don't want to go through it. like i said, i've
> been there, i've done that..  
>>>> Timothy Clark Ministries 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.timothyclarkministries.blogspot.com
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tevet 8, 5775 AM, at 1:00, Devin Prater via Faith-talk
> <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all. For years I've saught the truth. For years I've looked and
> looked to find God, and just when I think I've found him, I'm not sure.
> First there was Gnosticism that challenged me the most. I studdied it, and
> even downloaded a few of the gospels, like of Thomas. Now don't get me
> wrong. I don't just flit from view to view on religion so easily. I soon
> emerged from that with the firm conviction that it was just not true, for
> Jesus wouldn't want just a little few to become children of God, and while
> the world is fallen, our main wish shouldn't be to get out of it and not
> live on our way through it. But there's a book called Satan's counterfeit
> Christianity that I found on iBooks. I started reading it thinking it'd give
> more about other ideas I should keep away from, but it basically reads that
> all knowledge me have of Christianity is wrong. It says that Catholicism is
> rooted in other religions, based on Babel or however you spell it, and that
> Protestantism is just an extention of Catholicism, just split and without
> the rituals and such. So, now what? But the book's only advice about
> learning the "true faith" is to read the Bible deeply. Well, I've been doing
> that for as long as I had a Bible to read, and the only thing I disagree
> with of most Christians is that the sons of God in Gen 6 were fallen angels,
> not sons of Seth. So, is this something I should keep investigating, or
> should I just dismiss it before I cause myself more confusion and ache as
> happened with Gnosticism?
>>>>> 
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