[Faith-talk] An invitation of coexistence.
Doris and Chris
chipmunks at gmx.net
Wed Jan 15 05:24:30 UTC 2014
Dear Ms. Linda,
That freedom sets the US - "America" to many of us over here - apart
from other nations. I know that many of the 911 terrorists came from
Hamburg and other towns in Germany. This is something I personally do
not understand is how someone who had lived and embraced the Western
culture could turn against it. I see Mustafa andthe lady of his
heart and see them living the heritage God intends for all of us:
fellowship with him.
And I believe in Western democracy when we as the Westerners stand
and defend with our democracy and values even those who have turned against us.
This is where I think many of us Westerners outside the U.S. differ
when the U.S. deny accused terrorists even the rights that pow's have
under international law.
Shalom,
Doris
At 06:17 PM 2014/01/14 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi Doris,
>
>I never said that all Muslems are terrorists. I said that they have
>freedom here in America.
>
>Blessings,
>
>linda
>
>At 11:40 AM 1/14/2014, you wrote:
>>Ms. Linda, not every Muslim is a terrorist nor is there a
>>terrorist hiding behind every bush and out to get you. ;-p Mustafa
>>here and Sarah, the lady of his heart, are examples of just that.
>>St. Paul was one of the most passionate or extremist preachers of
>>his day who went way beyond what Jesus himself ever preached yet
>>one of the core messages is that love bears all things and
>>overcomes all things. I hope and pray as we each seek to be closer
>>to God whatever his name is called upon in whatever language .
>>please try to give this a chance.
>>
>>
>>Doris in Lutherland
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 08:05 AM 2014/01/14 -0800, you wrote:
>>>Good morning, Mustafa, I understand where you are coming from, but
>>>here in the U.S. We do not have the right to ban people from
>>>saying what is their opinion. (Although it is getting that way if
>>>y9ou are not really liberal in your social views). So our only
>>>choice here is not to watch somebody that we disagree with. I
>>>must go now because it is work time for me. Peace, Debby
>>>
>>>Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On Jan 13, 2014, at 5:31 PM, Linda Mentink
>>> <mentink at frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi Mostafa,
>>> >
>>> > We have freedom in this country; thus, no one is banned, not
>>> even Muslem terrorists who are building mosks here in the United States.
>>> >
>>> > Israel should be supported Politically because that is God's
>>> chosen nation, and they are God's chosen people. Oh, that all
>>> Christians would pray for and support the Jews!
>>> >
>>> > If you don't agree with a pastor's stance, you don't have to
>>> listen to him, or learn from him.
>>> >
>>> > Cordially,
>>> >
>>> > Linda
>>> >
>>> > At 10:42 AM 1/13/2014, you wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Dear all, peace be with you.
>>> >>
>>> >> Today, I am sending my post directly to Christian inhabitants
>>> of the United States in particular.
>>> >>
>>> >> I will tell you a little story, and then, I have an
>>> initiative, hopefully it is accepted by most of you, because I am
>>> sure that most of you are respectful Christians.
>>> >>
>>> >> Awhile ago, I met with a Christian guy from Jordan in Saudi Arabia.
>>> >>
>>> >> He was my neighbor where I live in Jeddah.
>>> >>
>>> >> He started to radically assault Saudi Arabia.
>>> >>
>>> >> And then, he proceeded to pose misconceptions about Islam,
>>> using what he hears from some Evangelists on Missionary televisions.
>>> >>
>>> >> In spite of my conversation with him, but it was not decent as
>>> you might expect it to be.
>>> >>
>>> >> He was disgraceful towards Islam, and I too was aggressive in
>>> my undisciplined reactions.
>>> >>
>>> >> We went away, and I never saw him again.
>>> >>
>>> >> Before this heated incident, I was never interested, and I
>>> never paid attention to Christianity.
>>> >>
>>> >> It was a turning point for me to start studying the religion.
>>> >>
>>> >> I started to kick off advanced theological debates with
>>> Christians across the web, and I stumbled with both moderate and
>>> excessive individuals.
>>> >>
>>> >> Of course, that was kind of pressure some times, and I was
>>> heavily influenced by these heated, and some times hateful
>>> debates to be perfectly fair.
>>> >>
>>> >> I learned a lot from my mistakes at that time, and I developed
>>> a level of defference and empathy toward others.
>>> >>
>>> >> I unfeignedly apologize for offending anyone, either
>>> deliberately or accidentally.
>>> >>
>>> >> We all are expected to slip up, and nothing wrong with
>>> admitting our own mistakes.
>>> >>
>>> >> To the contrary, I consider that a substantial privilege.
>>> >>
>>> >> I then began to study Christianity in a more informative manner.
>>> >>
>>> >> What really inspires me to write this message today, is my
>>> recent conversation with my friend Poppa Bear, which was
>>> prosperously conducted a week ago.
>>> >>
>>> >> We were both impressed of how respectful and civil our conversation was.
>>> >>
>>> >> We were generously discussing various subjects.
>>> >>
>>> >> We felicitously agreed, and we courteously disagreed.
>>> >>
>>> >> Our conversation was over whilst we both are satisfied, and
>>> we look forward to meeting on a regular basis for more intriguing discussions.
>>> >>
>>> >> But to be critically honest, I must admit that I am taken
>>> aback of what I hear from some extremist Evangelists.
>>> >>
>>> >> Let us take Pastor Jhon Hagee, for instance.
>>> >>
>>> >> I listened to some of his sermans today.
>>> >>
>>> >> Trust me, I had a horrible stomachache because of the radical
>>> intolerance he developed.
>>> >>
>>> >> You just could not imagine the gravely hate rhetoric he carried out.
>>> >>
>>> >> He is the chief director of demonize Islam bandwagon.
>>> >>
>>> >> I comprehend that my Christian friends may find him an
>>> impressive speaker on apologetic level.
>>> >>
>>> >> But for certain, he does not adhere any level of tolerance towards us.
>>> >>
>>> >> He finds the spiritual satisfaction in his corrupted
>>> apprehension of Christianity.
>>> >>
>>> >> He is the cofounder of that cult of dispensational Evangelism.
>>> >>
>>> >> I never understood the concept behind that bedrock of
>>> insistently supporting Israel politically, often featured by
>>> Pastor Hagee on his public ministries.
>>> >>
>>> >> Why my Christian friends out there do not consider certain
>>> course of actions to significantly eliminate that impact of hate speech?
>>> >>
>>> >> Here in Egypt, the government banned many Muslim clerics
>>> from the public arena because of their hate ideology.
>>> >>
>>> >> The Brotherhood movement was declared a terrorist organization
>>> for imposing violence on civilians and enormously threatening the
>>> national security essentials.
>>> >>
>>> >> Many prominent religious telecasts were deposed for explicitly
>>> inciting hatred toward other minorities.
>>> >>
>>> >> I highly encourage my Christian mates in the States to
>>> constantly advocate for religious tolerance and coexistence.
>>> >>
>>> >> Trust me, nothing comes from religious extremism but hate,
>>> denouncing sentiments, verbal violence, and many other elements
>>> of growing evil.
>>> >>
>>> >> Please, consider banning those who are preaching within
>>> instigating hate and hostile rhetoric.
>>> >>
>>> >> I expect many of you to be respectful and sincerely devout Christians.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you for reading my message, and have a pleasant time.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you so much, peace be with you.
>>> >>
>>> >> Mostafa.
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