[Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to theZionistsubjection.

Fri Jul 18 16:25:20 UTC 2014

RJ,
I understand how you feel, but maybe you should be the one to get off the list if you hate religion topics? I don’t know how new you are, but just because this is an NFB list doesn’t mean we all go around discussing religion and blindness. isn’t that a little narrow-minded? It’s like a bunch of old people talking about their aches and pains. How would we benefit from religion and blindness? You really can’t put the two together, unless you pity being blind or something, or maybe blindness is all you want to talk about and don’t want to expand on religion.

In fact, if someone prominent in the NFB heard what you said, I would think he/she would be offended. We are blind…so what? Who cares? We move on in life and discuss other things other than blindness. I personally took offense to what you said because I don’t go around talking about blindness every sentence. If you don’t like a topic anyone discusses, you don’t have to read it, or you can have some respect and agree to disagree. This is freedom of religion and we all have a right to our own opinions. If you don’t like that, tough luck.

Mostafa, I am sorry for the jerks on this list. God bless you…don’t worry about what people say…just keep posting.

Christine
On Jul 18, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Paul via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:

> The description of this list is for "the discussion of faith and religion." Yes, it is one of the many lists under the umbrella of the National Federation of the Blind, but I'm a member of several Christian email groups in which all kinds of topics are discussed.  Paul
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brandon A. Olivares via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> To: "RJ Sandefur" <joltingjacksandefur at gmail.com>; "Faith-talk,for the discussion of faith and religion" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
> Cc: "Mostafa" <mostafa.almahdy at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to theZionistsubjection.
> 
> 
>> This seems unfair. I’ve been on this list for a while now, and most topics are on faith but have nothing to do with blindness whatsoever. If you invoke the “rules” in this case, then they should be applied to every topic.
>> 
>> The truth is, it seems to me anyway, is that someone is discussing a point of view that is quite unpopular with the majority of those on this list, who are Christians. I had the same experience when I shared my non-Christian perspective when I first joined this list. I’ve seen strong language, but no rudeness, so I don’t see what the problem is.
>> 
>> Is this a place where all perspectives may be equally shared, even if they are unpopular? Or should this list be renamed, “Christian talk”?
>> 
>> Peace,
>> Brandon
>> On Jul 18, 2014, at 11:17 AM, RJ Sandefur via Faith-talk <faith-talk at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> This is not the place for this crap! How menny times must we tell you? This is a list for the national federation of the blind! If you do not have anything blindness related to contribute, then unsubscribe from this list!
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mostafa via Faith-talk" <faith-talk at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: <oilofgladness47 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 2:37 PM
>>> Subject: [Faith-talk] Refutation and preeminent repudiation to the Zionistsubjection.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Greetings.
>>>> 
>>>> It was immediately after my post that I have got ranging responses, from considering my scrutiny irrelevant to inconsistently comparing sacred translations with the constant transmission of terrestrial disciplines such as Astronomy, Ecology, Mathematics, and other related scientific branches.
>>>> 
>>>> The one who incorrectly posed this inconsistent analogy should have known that physical science is the study of the physical and natural world using theoretical models and data from experiments or observation.
>>>> 
>>>> But sacred text is not based on that.
>>>> 
>>>> Sacred text is based on divine legitimacy and reliability.
>>>> 
>>>> Furthermore, physical science is temporal, and it constantly evolves as new discovery and scientific developments unfold.
>>>> 
>>>> Whilst in addition, sacred text is unaltered, it is not edited, motified, nor even recontextualized.
>>>> 
>>>> I reserve the right to criticize any form of belief, as long as I am devoting my arguments to enlightening propositions, and that does not mean I am doubtful of my faith, it is basically preposterous for someone to think so.
>>>> 
>>>> Well, someone is certainly pitiful enough to delude himself with such miserably absurd illusions.
>>>> 
>>>>         Now, we are back again to verbally defy the plain obstinacy of guarding aggression and transgression.
>>>> 
>>>> The Constitution of the United States is the most honorable constitution in the world.
>>>> 
>>>> It strictly prohibits ethnic cleansing, mass murder, suppression, subjection and military strikes on civil targets.
>>>> 
>>>> I am not flattering Americans though, I am basically uttering the truth.
>>>> 
>>>> I distinctly honor and respect the humanrights principles which the U.S Constitution strongly affirms and it is based on that.
>>>> 
>>>> The U.S constitution recognizes people equal before the supreme law, and it does not opt anyone on either racial, ethnic or religious superiority complex.
>>>> 
>>>> Well unfortunately, there are some minors who considers themselves crème de la crème, they consider themselves eminent, even beyond the constitutional principles, and they think that an insect in New York is worthful than a human being in Gaza.
>>>> 
>>>> Those who devote themselves to such abominable attitude are not humans, although they look like humans, but they think and act like devilish species.
>>>> 
>>>> They viciously belong to  mephistophelean species because of their radical arrogance and cruelty.
>>>> 
>>>> I emphasize again as I have done many times before, Original sin in Islam is not reprobating Adam and Eve for eating from the forbidden tree, it is rather acting in pride and arrogance.
>>>> 
>>>> This is the resentment  of Lucifer who is the chief adversary  of cynicism.
>>>> 
>>>> He is demonized to eternal damnation because of his radical arrogance and bigotry.
>>>> 
>>>> Pro Israel supporters and their allies consider themselves the highest of high, the chosen people, the children of God, and therefore, anyone who opposes them is not a human, and he is worth it for a shoot.
>>>> 
>>>> We will never bow down to their oppressive authority, defiance should persist, and we ultimately shall prevail.
>>>> 
>>>> I will make sure to pass my defying sentiment to a broader scale, so we will uninterruptedly pressure on Israel and its pro allies on international scope, until we force them to decease using the force to bow Palestinians down.
>>>> 
>>>> As President Anwar el-Sadat said;
>>>> 
>>>> “What was taken by force is never regained by rather than force”.
>>>> 
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